Venusian Arts vs. Lovesystems

[Renegade]

Originally, i was going to study LS, but then i found out that VA is mystery's actual system. Which one do you guys like more, and why?

[RMO]

mystery, lovedrop, and matador used to be part of love systems until they were being swindled by their boss so they left, they just got out of a big lawsuit with love systems, and right now their trying to find the Google policies in order to get the mystery method name under copy right.

they started venusian arts and thats all of mystery's new work and thier coming out with a new book come valentines day.

i personally would choose Venusian arts, because love systems is mostly mystery stuff

[SenorBubbz]

NOOOOOO
FUCK CANNED GAME

Dude, read up on RSD and Swinggcat's shit. Total fucking pwnage.

[lilprodigy]

its only canned for the first couples time u use it "fake it till u make it"

[RMO]

sucks for real social dynamics the amount of negative publicity tyler durden and such recievied from the game

[SenorBubbz]

Aug 16, 2009 17:23:48 GMT -5 RMO said:

sucks for real social dynamics the amount of negative publicity tyler durden and such recievied from the game

Yea, I wouldn't touch their products at first but then I realized Style's full of shit.

And lilprodigy, that's terrible. I also thought that at first, and that's so wrong. You need to build up your confidence, you can't fake it cuz girls can sense it.

[Alek]

Aug 16, 2009 21:58:10 GMT -5 SenorBubbz said:

Aug 16, 2009 17:23:48 GMT -5 RMO said:

sucks for real social dynamics the amount of negative publicity tyler durden and such recievied from the game

Yea, I wouldn't touch their products at first but then I realized Style's full of shit.

And lilprodigy, that's terrible. I also thought that at first, and that's so wrong. You need to build up your confidence, you can't fake it cuz girls can sense it.

Well, you definitely can fake it, but you gotta be good at faking it. In other words, you gotta believe your own bullshit haha.

But if you make something up, the key to make it sound natural is to rehearse. Rehearse on practice sets, rehearse infront of the mirror...when your driving, when ever. The more you say it, the more it becomes natural.

[lilprodigy]

I dont get what u mean by believe your own bullshit. I wouldnt tel a girl something if i didnt believe it to some extent. My biggest problem is that im naturly an asshole soo i tend to pick lines that are too "mean" and I come off as an ass lol, wear as if i just make up shit on the spot it tends to be nicer.Oh and canned shit ALWAYS works if ur talking to a girl online as long as it somthing that you could come up with and suits your personality. Weird but just about everything I say on here ppl tend to correct lol.
P.s sorry for the long post.

Edit; you can fake it and have confidence. In fact I find canned lines give me more confidence

[Deleted]

DYD + Swinggcat = Sex for you

[sparkogre]

Dude, just read Venutian Arts Revelation ebook.

That's it. Seriously, Style IS full of shit, RSD and Tyler Durden put out some of the best products on the market.

[SenorBubbz]

I disagree with all of you except Aaron.
Alek, if you rehearse it, it will sound rehearsed, turning the girl off.
And if you think you have confidence, then you already do. If you think you feel confident around girls and when you are around them, then you've got confidence. It's on big mindfuck but you can't fake having confidence. You either have it or you don't and one of the only ways to get it is to fuck some shit up. Not on purpose but you can't be afraid to make mistakes.

Anyway, David D, Swinggcat and RSD are all you need. When I started I only knew about Mystery, so that's what I read. But you have options bro. If you don't have to start with MM, then fucking don't.

But read Magic Bullets just so you know all the vocabulary and ideas behind the game.

[lilprodigy]

I realy dont know why everyone hates mystery. Dont do all his canned shit but I think his M3 model is pretty sound. But if ur going to with love systems then you should just watch him instead

34 parts each 10mins

[SenorBubbz]

M3 model is kinda bullshit

[RMO]

my 2nd statement i was just stating that it made tyler durden look bad

perception is reality

if people believe that he is bad

then he is bad

its how the market plays, even if in reality he isnt, im just saying it sucks for him.

[Alek]

Aug 17, 2009 18:20:47 GMT -5 SenorBubbz said:

I disagree with all of you except Aaron.
Alek, if you rehearse it, it will sound rehearsed, turning the girl off.

Not if you say it with emotion, because thats what girls look at in storys. You see, you have to rehearse it, so you get comfortable saying it and at the same time say it with true emotions. The ultimate goal is to make it congruent to you, and anything that is congruent is done with emotions, because that makes it natural.

And I love the m3 model.

@ lil, believing your own bullshit means you have to be congruent with what you are saying. If you make it sound fake, and play it off then its obvious its fake. But if your congruent with what you say, then itll sound real.