dante3x3
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Post by dante3x3 on Sept 7, 2009 2:22:53 GMT -5
Tell me if this sounds familiar you loaded yourself up with all the material you could find talked to a girl expecting a verbal duel of epic proportions, in which you, with your new found knowledge, would seduce her. Instead of this epic duel, you found the experience more akin to fencing a rock. No response, she seemed a little intimidated, and uncomfortable.
The Facts Game is designed to work on highly socialized, attractive, 20 somethings. Many of its facets depend on the target being socialized. Most high school girls are really not very socialized at all, with the exception of the hottest, most popular ones, and even some of them are rather sheltered and inexperienced. Many of the tactics we use for attraction are COMPLETELY unnecessary. Most of what is required is Comfort. Teenage girls are so utterly uncomfortable and unused to their sexuality that a guy who makes them feel secure throughout the whole ordeal is preferable. With most girls, you barely need any attraction, just lots of comfort and STEADY kino escalation.
Useless Tactics The Neg- counterproductive in all but the most attractive girls Freezing Out- Ineffective as most girls are not confident enough to reinitiate others that i will add later, feel free to make suggestions
What This Means For Us Actualy, this makes our jobs a hell of a lot easier High School Girls are VERY low value, and alot of pua tactics just scare them and make them uncomfortable, and sadly many high school girls will rather ditch you than risk their ego. This means that you should strip your game down a little, to three Basic Pillars
Voice- good tone, volume, etc,
Body language- DUH, soooo many posts on this
Kino Escalation- It must be PERFECTLY calibrated, post to come
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Calli
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Post by Calli on Sept 7, 2009 3:35:27 GMT -5
Nice post, this really clears things up for me. I'm definitely looking forward to hearing more on what works best on teenage girls.
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Yuri Curi
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Post by Yuri Curi on Sept 7, 2009 7:15:01 GMT -5
Yeah definitely clears up that just cluster fuck of the mind when you first read into this stuff.
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SenorBubbz
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Post by SenorBubbz on Sept 7, 2009 9:22:42 GMT -5
LOL. Well what do ya know, those 3 things are what I need help on most. Fuck me.
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kornforpie
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Post by kornforpie on Sept 7, 2009 10:23:38 GMT -5
Body language and voice are the easier of three to master. Body language is nothing more than wearing a constant "cocky-funny" smile and holding yourself in an open relaxed position. With voice, its nothing more than slowing down your speech and making it more confident sounding.
I'm interested in what you have to say about kino though.
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shadow7
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Post by shadow7 on Sept 7, 2009 17:30:16 GMT -5
I agree mostly. "Instead of this epic duel, you found the experience more akin to fencing a rock. No response, she seemed a little intimidated, and uncomfortable." Very true. This is what I found out when I first started using this stuff too. So I had to change all of my tactics to fit High School and here is what I think is needed:
Attraction isn't that hard to acquire but like you said, comfort is. Once you have a good amount of attraction then you may move into comfort because the majority of dating in high school is based off of attraction alone. No one wants to just have a friend. Girls have plenty of friends. So the first stage of getting the girl is being: Confident, popular, and challenging. Then the next stage is: Comfort, Getting to know her, Inside Jokes After that: Make her feel Beautiful and sexual unlike ever before
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nutrick
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Post by nutrick on Sept 7, 2009 17:56:16 GMT -5
Comfort requires YOU to put down your "bitch shield" and be real and down to earth with her. Show some vulnerability, that's how true connections and relationships are built IN GENERAL, not just with girls.
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methodjkl11
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Post by methodjkl11 on Sept 7, 2009 18:45:36 GMT -5
i totally agree but personally i have found that "negs" are still rather useful. Not necessarily the traditional PUA neg that people memorize but the concept is still invaluable.
i mean, i guess this may be obvious, but teasing the shit out of chicks works wonders, even if they are a bit insecure, just the fact that you have enough confidence to "go there" and have a good time while doing it shows a lot. the key is to keep her laughing throughout the whole thing though.
you're right in that freezeouts don't work, but good time management is still a must. like in text-game.. breaks are good, etc. a little feigned detachment.
good post
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Mandrake
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Post by Mandrake on Sept 7, 2009 20:36:11 GMT -5
You're ma boy Dante. I deeply agree with a lot of what you said, with a few objections but I don't have time to write em right now.
Also, you should check out Vin DiCarlo, he has a lot of similar ideas that are simple but well explained
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Alek
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Post by Alek on Sept 7, 2009 21:16:46 GMT -5
High School Girls are VERY low value lmfao
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zeze
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Post by zeze on Sept 7, 2009 21:45:38 GMT -5
couldnt have said it any better bro
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Johnny Bravo
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Post by Johnny Bravo on Sept 7, 2009 23:37:44 GMT -5
Dante, I really hate threads like this, but I'm not going to lie.
Your right. you have the sex skills to back it up.
You know what your talking about. This is all true. But I just can't be fucked to do all that shit just to get a shitty fuck. For once in my life I like a girl, and shes nothing like any of the girls I've gamed.
Whats this done for me? Wasted hours trying to get laid only to worry about having a kid? Or dealing with drama?
Lets face it, game in highschool is like buying beer underaged. Its so much work, just for a shitty ass high with a horrible hangover.
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dante3x3
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Post by dante3x3 on Sept 7, 2009 23:55:08 GMT -5
Lets face it, game in highschool is like buying beer underaged. Its so much work, just for a shitty ass high with a horrible hangover. buying beer is alot easier when you are me, and look 25, and are friends with all the deli owners or you have a fake ID just saying
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Volt
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Post by Volt on Sept 8, 2009 2:10:52 GMT -5
Gay, from what I've heard, you're right and getting sex/girls becomes much easier when they become more confident later on.
However, gaming is our only option. Do you have an alternative that isn't miserably moping around?
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Alek
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Post by Alek on Sept 8, 2009 14:01:16 GMT -5
^ Turn gay. Wont have to worry about pregnancy and you dont have any drama strings attached!
As that is what I believe has happened to zach, thus my song
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