sparkogre
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Post by sparkogre on Oct 8, 2009 17:43:23 GMT -5
Jesus Christ...you don't have to be in control all of the time.
I know a lot of people are overanalyzing shit, because they've been overwhelmed by the propaganda, but take a step back. You are dealing with people. Now I know a lot of us feel very clever that we have discovered internet resources that enable us to get girls (yes, take a step back), but STILL. If your common sense tells you something is wrong, then FUCK IT.
"Spark, fucking tard, common sense doesn't tell us SHIT about pickup!"
I'm not talking about applying common sense to how you should necessarily go about pick-up. But come on guys... boyfriend destroyers? Date crashing? That's not even common sense, that's just not being an asshole.
And maybe you think, "Her boyfriend is an asshole, so it's okay for me to break them up." Hitler's campguards justified to themselves that what they were doing wasn't wrong either.
And a lot of you quote that "you are not special, you are decaying matter" line from Fight Club. Note to forum users, that applies to you too. You do not have any privilege or right over other people, whether that be girls that you are being an asshole to because you think it's good practice, or guys that you are fucking over, for the sole reason that they haven't spent as much time on the internet as you.
"pick-up isn't immoral"
Yes, I got that.
And I know that most of you are fine, but there's so many threads here that have so many posts of just... shit.
And now I step off of the self-righteousness train.
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Post by Andrew on Oct 8, 2009 19:58:01 GMT -5
THANK YOU.
I'm so tired of the lack of BASIC DECENCY!!!!!
WHY CANT WE BE AMAZING AT PICKING UP WOMEN AND STILL BE GENTLEMEN??
stop being an asshole.
+1
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Post by ken on Oct 8, 2009 22:29:30 GMT -5
As they say on /b/ GTFO Moralfag.I bet your just mad because some guy datecrashed you and used a bunch of generic textbook boyfriend destroyers.
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Chris
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Post by Chris on Oct 8, 2009 22:43:34 GMT -5
As they say on /b/ GTFO Moralfag.I bet your just mad because some guy datecrashed you and used a bunch of generic textbook boyfriend destroyers. ...or he could be a person with true integrity. He has true values and he sticks to them. Now THAT is a fucking ALPHA QUALITY if i've ever seen one. |
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Post by ken on Oct 8, 2009 22:48:29 GMT -5
Another Alpha quality is getting what you want and demonstrating your dominance.
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Chris
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Post by Chris on Oct 8, 2009 22:56:06 GMT -5
yes. but not if it sacrifices inegrity. You have a misunderstanding
of dominance.
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Post by Volt on Oct 8, 2009 23:18:55 GMT -5
There's a line. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong to break up otherwise happy relationships, but it has to be worth it. You have to look at your target, your values, and the boyfriend and how each course of action would affect you, him, her, and your reputation. I wouldn't do it unless the girl is dying for my cock, and it's not a good relationship. You have to resist the urge to be passive at times, especially if like a lot of the guys on this forum you have spend years of your life being proverbially ran over.
I basically think Ken is right for the wrong reasons.
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sparkogre
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Post by sparkogre on Oct 9, 2009 17:36:09 GMT -5
TL;DR: Is a group of bandits alpha because they get what they want and display their dominance?
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Yeah Volt, but only in some situations.
As they say on /b/ GTFO Moralfag.I bet your just mad because some guy datecrashed you and used a bunch of generic textbook boyfriend destroyers.
Ken, this board is for intellectual discussion. Though real-life arguments are usually won by the more emotional person, here, on a site dedicated to analyzing human interactions of all places, we will not be swayed by fluff.
Another Alpha quality is getting what you want and demonstrating your dominance.
Back during the Civil War, there was a prison camp in Georgia, known as Camp Sumter. The conditions there were similar to those at the concentration camps of the Nazis: the amount of human waste (feces) produced at that camp was such that the area is STILL contaminated.
All of the people kept this camp were Union POWs. They were all on the same side to begin with. After a while, however, a few of the prisoners, calling themselves the Andersonville Raiders, started to steal food from their fellow soldiers, and even murder them for their possessions.
Were those men alpha? It depends on what you mean by alpha. If you are only taking your definition of alpha to be what passes in the natural world, the most selfish and dominant animals control the pack, then yes, of course they were.
But when we use the term alpha male, we are not usually referring to bestial mating patterns. We intend the term to mean our best self. And if you think you being your best self means that you have to step on others, then we call you a psychopath.
And guys, I'm not saying this because I think you're actually going to cause a significant moral decline in society or something. I'm saying this because it's not a good thing to adopt a behavioral pattern that is classified as a mental disorder.
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Post by ken on Oct 9, 2009 18:18:50 GMT -5
Wow way way to take it to an extreme I don't see whats wrong with date crashing or boy friend destroyers if the relationship was perfect they wouldn't sleep with you.
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sparkogre
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Post by sparkogre on Oct 9, 2009 18:24:39 GMT -5
Wow way way to take it to an extreme I don't see whats wrong with date crashing or boy friend destroyers if the relationship was perfect they wouldn't sleep with you.
Lol sorry about that. I have a habit of doing that.
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sparkogre
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Post by sparkogre on Oct 9, 2009 18:25:27 GMT -5
Sparkogre, you stupid fuck.
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Chris
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Post by Chris on Oct 9, 2009 20:10:23 GMT -5
slightly off topic...
is date crashing actually a community term cuz i've never heard
of it until now lol.
THAT sounds like the STUPIDEST thing you can do. Whats your
motivation to crash a date? jealousy. where does jealousy stem
from? insecurity. is insecurity attractive AT ALL? not one bit.
dumb move.
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Post by ken on Oct 9, 2009 22:34:23 GMT -5
Nope no jealousy how about shes just hot or your just doing it for the lulz. Once you study body language a brief amount of time you can tell things like if someone is having a good time or not. If you see a couple and the HB looks completely bored,uninterested or creeped out by the guy than its a potential datecrash target. All you have to do is open the set,ask how they each other or what they are doing. If the AFC says there are bf and gf or that they are on a date and the HB corrects him saying they're just friends or they're just hanging out its basically her way of saying please get me out of here. Its not like you snatch the girl and run its like ehen a girl goes to "the bathroom" in a club when she needs a way out.
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Post by darkpwns on Oct 11, 2009 18:05:57 GMT -5
Nope no jealousy how about shes just hot or your just doing it for the lulz. Once you study body language a brief amount of time you can tell things like if someone is having a good time or not. If you see a couple and the HB looks completely bored,uninterested or creeped out by the guy than its a potential datecrash target. All you have to do is open the set,ask how they each other or what they are doing. If the AFC says there are bf and gf or that they are on a date and the HB corrects him saying they're just friends or they're just hanging out its basically her way of saying please get me out of here. Its not like you snatch the girl and run its like ehen a girl goes to "the bathroom" in a club when she needs a way out. Aaaah I used to do that ages ago, but I've stopped since some guy had high testosterone and I ended up fighting. Also, if somebody did that to me I'd also probably beat the shit out of them...but I guess I just like fighting. Overall, I think in pick up guys shouldn't do shit that could potentially put themselves in danger, you never know who has anger issues. If you tried to use a boyfriend destroyer on someone's girlfriend and they found out about it they could ruin your social status to the point where it was acceptable to beat the shit out of you and then they could break your arms and pop your balls. Don't be stupid. There are other fish in the sea, let go of your fucking minority mindset. You need to fucking understand that not everybody "doesn't care". Perhaps, you'd need to witness that anger firsthand though. I just hope you know how to fight. |
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Post by ken on Oct 11, 2009 19:15:58 GMT -5
You generally do date crashes when the guy appears to have low value,lower that the HB's and is someone you can walk all over. I am prepared for a fight if someone trys to pick one with me I study martial arts and I try to learn and practice new and useful techniques all the time. 90% of people will open a fight with a right punch I can think of 10 easy ways to catch someone completely off guard and end the fight right there with one to two strikes.
When it comes to boy friend destroyers you generally use them during cold approaches in public settings when your trying to number close a target and they bring up their boy friend towards they end.If you try using them at school you deserve to get your dumb ass beat unless the dude is a total nerd or weaboo than you don't have shit to worry about.
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