The Breakdown on the high school social hierchy

[comedian]

These are the levels on whose on top and whose on the bottom @ highschool.

I. Jocks- Good athelites

II. Jock riders- also athelites but the ones who arent that good or are alright, ride the biggest jock and gets girs just 4 affiliation.

III. The Hot ass girls u cant stop looking @- These girls are the shit when it comes 2 looks, and the horrible thing is... they know. They know that every girl is jelous of them and every dude wants them. They get hit on by so many dudes and get so many points just because they are pretty that they have it programed in their mind that they can have any dude. Why settle for anything less than the best.

IV. Good looking dudes- these dudes are just like the girls but for girls. Dudes think that they r cool because girls think they r cool usualy these guys r assholes. some are not. most r tho

V. Cool People- these people know alot of people, throw parties and r jus cool 4 some damn reason idk. these can b boys and girls.

VI. That lucky SOB- this person just happens 2 b friends with the popular kids because of something/someone he/she has or knows. This is the kid who was the first on the block 2 get the newest toy or videogame.

VII. drones/ followers- these are just pawns like in chess they dont do anything but follow the leader.

VIII. Individuals- these are the people who dont go with the crowd. Sadly they r near the bottom the ones that are on top cannot handle the truth that the indivduals spread. No one can, so they treat them like the crazies. Of coarse cause therse no way that the cool kids could realy b losers??

IX. The geeks and nerds(lames)- these people r the ones every1 makes fun of because of how they look, act, and who they affiliate with. Ironicaly these people r usually the ones who lead rich and successfull lives.

thats the jist of it, add anything i left out.

[Andrew]

I feel like you get a lot of your information from high school movies haha

[RMO]

this is interesting, albiet it could give a grammar instructor a heart attack, someone needs to make a description of how all the groups act, also in certain schools there are a variety of diffrent geeks and nerds and they interact with the high hiercy differently
example
A geek with skills as a DJ or audio equipment could get into a party
Whereas a booksmart nerd would nvr even think about getting there

and maybe more importantly, how guys like highschool PUA's fit into it

[comedian]

yea i was kinda tired and didnt feel like goin back and spelling right lol. but yea u have a point, Tommy. And i dont like most teen movies cause they r so typical( someone comes 2 the school and changes everything or the nerd becomes popular), but they r very true tho. But i might go and write another with more detail

[pokemon]

Jan 2, 2010 2:46:35 GMT -5 Andrew said:

I feel like you get a lot of your information from high school movies haha

i second that. this isn't true where I'm from at all.

[Grape]

sorry dude. it seems like you put a bit of time into this post, however i dont think this is accurate at all. it only strengthens the BS that lies within high school.

define the standards you used to make this hierarchy.
probably something along the lines of "amount of friends" or "seems the coolest"

let me tell you that the cold hearted truth is that in each clique there are people with many friends and people with no friends. even in the jocks clique and even in the nerds clique.

and then comes seeming the coolest. Define this for me. What to you defines cool?

[WhiteKnight]

Well...I don't think its that simple. I agree with Grape to a degree but I know we differ in ideology. But if this is the case then I either fall into good looking...hold on. You guys should know I play A TON of poker and relate a lot of stuff to psychology, reading people, etc and I can almost only do that by the way they speak and their opinions...which doesn't work well with the poker...I digress
My read on you makes me think that you are the VIII. on the list, and I know a kid I would describe as a nerd he would say is an individual and he describes me as pretty boy, who only has friends because I am good looking. I don't think I am that good looking, more like decent. The next group I could be in is cool kid, I'm nice, funny, and friendly to most people...but wait I don't throw parties my parents are super strict. So am I an individual? I do stand up some of the "cool kids" I am friends with because they are being dicks, and stop hanging out with them for a while. But I do this mostly now to establish Alpha Dominance, being alpha is everything. I think I have a better observation of the High School World than you do. But it is so shifty, complicated and I am so unorganized I could never make a template. So to end this post,
Grape? Comedian? And anyone else who wants in? Do you guys wanna try to create an established Hierarchy of High School Guide to be stickied on this site?

[sharkoffs]

Jan 3, 2010 9:23:07 GMT -5 Grape said:

sorry dude. it seems like you put a bit of time into this post, however i dont think this is accurate at all. it only strengthens the BS that lies within high school.

define the standards you used to make this hierarchy.
probably something along the lines of "amount of friends" or "seems the coolest"

let me tell you that the cold hearted truth is that in each clique there are people with many friends and people with no friends. even in the jocks clique and even in the nerds clique.

and then comes seeming the coolest. Define this for me. What to you defines cool?

Yeah i'm gonna have to go with Grapey on this one.

You sound like you have some sort of resentment towards each group.

The "hot ass girls" most likely bother you because you haven't figured out how to get their attention, and since you feel they brush you aside you build up a sort of hatred for them. But you have to remember it's not you that their brushing you aside, its your game that their brushing aside.

You obviously consider yourself an "individual" and apparently are resentful of the jock riders, the cool people and the good looking dudes. You probably have a reason to hate each group but honestly theres no point in getting caught up in the immature bullcrap "High-School Hierarchy" that you believe to be so true.

You need to get out of this little bullshit bubble that you have been building up in your mind. Everyone is the same as you, everyone cares about what everyone else thinks, everyone believes themselves to have a flaw, its a natural human nature to be self conscious and part of being self conscious is being socially conscious.

This post was unnecessary and shows what you believe is your excuse for not being successful with women, don't get caught up in bullshit.

High-School DOES NOT MAKE UP YOUR LIFE, in a couple years you are most likely never going to see the people you went to high school with again. Start building up a life outside of school and break from the chains and crutches that hold you back mentally AND physically.

[Johnny Bravo]

Do we really need anymore social hierarchy things anyways?

Does this social ladder even exsist?

Or is it a self limitation believing that you are not the top of the ladder?

[Volt]

The ladder does exist, Gay, but it is more mobile and flexible than it appears. It also only applies in your school. There's no reason that somebody at the bottom can't pull someone from the top with enough work, or someone from another school in a few hours.

[owl]

Sharkoffs speaks nothing but truth. My own two-cents is that the ladder is just a state of mind.

Think about it, if you consider yourself in the unpopular group or as someone wanting to be in the popular group, trying to go up a ladder is something you really worry about. They sometimes classify themselves in the "lower rung" of the ladder, and sometimes assume they can't go up in it. They also put everyone above them on a pedestal, which in my experiences was a big no-no.

Now think about popular kids. They don't give a damn over some "ladder" or where they fit in it, they just act how they want to act and live on their own terms (Alpha traits). The ladder is non-existent to them, they merely just consider "nerds" as "nerds".

I've talked to "nerds", and I've realized that the potential popular ones usually answer to my questions of, "Why don't you get out more?" with a "I'm happy with where I am, and I don't give two shits about the pop/cool group." These guys have potential. But hell as long as their living their life how they want their living it fine.

The "ladder" is a state of mind. Get over it. Get on to thinking that everyone is the same. The sooner you stop worrying about social hierarchy's the sooner you'll step up in it.

[comedian]

wow i havent been on in a long time didnt read all but skimed some, i wrote this when i was realy mad cause i felt realy angry about some personal stuff ( an no its not the hot ass girls part, actualy im a good looking guy and get their attention. This guy i know went around school and basicly lowered my social value last year because i was new and im still recovering)
Honestly there is a lot of complexity that goes into the "hierch" that would take too long to explain so im actually going to leave it alone, but there are some things i want 2 address.

1. to me cool is just being yourself and creating a vibe that most people can connect to
2. Now i dont realy care about high school, most of my problems were caused by someone else. I have had some time to get over it.
3. I am kinda stuck in between cool and lame, i am content on where i am i dont realy care, I am just mad that people judge me on what someone else told them about me