My story

[teddy1234]

Alright well first i would like to introduce myself to the board.Im 15 years old and im a freshmen in high school and i am having trouble on what to do next as i dont know how to get girls in high school.Anyways heres whats up.6th-8th grade i fucked up and i didnt talk to girls.I guess i kinda hung out with the rejects but they had been my friends since 2nd grade so i couldnt just leave.Anyways i made the decision to go to a different high school then them for football and other reasons.I got to meet new friends and it opened up a whole lot of opportunities.within the first month of hanging out with my new friends i got my first kiss and started getting into talking to girls a little bit.My confidence kept growing and i started reinventing myself into a completely different person.another month went by and i got the opportunity to get layed and i took it.Id never had a gf before and never had any other experience before.I hadnt even made out before i dont know how it happened but the point was i got layed and i thought that it would fix my problems with girls but for some reason it didnt.My confidence did go up alot but i still managed to fuck up with this girl i liked and right now im kinda bummed and i dont know how to meet new girls and start looking at more targets.I dont know how to have plenty of girls to choose from and i really dont know what my problem is.I thought getting layed would solve everything but it didnt .If anyone could lead me in the right direction i would appreciate it,thanks.

[dionysus]

wow, I'm ashamed no one responded to this

well teddy what can I say?

sex solves nothing, if you want options then MAKE THEM

my wing is pretty AFC like yourself and does the same thing, one day you have to ditch the oneitus!

I did the same thing, lost my virginity when I just turned 14 and thought "Wow, I'm the shit, I can get any girl!" bull shit.

Then you start to flirt with girls and the ones that don't respond correctly "bug" you and then become "special" when all they did was not flirt back. say it with me

THESE GIRLS AREN'T SPECIAL

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don't waste your time on a bad set and work your ass off talking, creating a life style and opening every door. read everything and find out about others experience

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May 6, 2010 8:04:29 GMT -5 dionysus said:

Then you start to flirt with girls and the ones that don't respond correctly "bug" you and then become "special" when all they did was not flirt back. say it with me

Don't respond "correctly"? Really now? So your lines should work on every girl and if they don't flirt back, well then they're in the wrong huh? Wrong.

THESE GIRLS AREN'T SPECIAL

Let me tell you man, you're on the fast track to becoming a misogynist. Girls are special, they are unique, they are your team-mates. Girls want the same thing you want and they want to give it to you. Stop looking at girls as not special and targets. It's not good for you and it's just plain weird. If you want to not worry about girls reactions have this in your mind instead:
"I am indifferent to the outcome".
It's much healthier and can help in all aspects of life.

[def454]

aaron, i think you took the quote out of context- both of them. When he says dont repsond correctly- he is referring tot he afct that when you flirt, you want them to respond favorably, thus this is "correct." I dont think hes saying theyre wrong for not liking you. When he says theyre not special, hes not saying girls in general arent special, hes saying girls who reject you arent special.

Aaron, you are well intentioned, but it seems youre harboring some resentment for the community as of late. we all know the downsides the community has, and its clear youre really starting to hate the community, to the point where you cant even objectively read a post anymore. i think youre ready to follow the words of neill struass- "to win the game is to leave it."

Please dont respond with animosity, you are one of my favorite posters on the site, im simply voicing my concern, as lately you seem upset.


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Now i blieve i owe it to teddy to address some of his concerns. Make sure this si what you want, because it IS a committment, and at times you will not like it. At other times you will love it. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt when perusing ANy PUA info from ANYONE. dont do anything youre not comfortable with, it wont help you or your game.

a good starting place and the start of my journey was reading The game by neill strauss.

Enjoy the site man.

[Deleted]

I'm just stating what I see.

The fact of the matter is, your mind is fucking crazy (as in it can do a lot of crazy things). By having an affirmation like that, you're just setting yourself up to hate women. I know what he's getting at so I recommended a different, more healthy train of thought.

I've seen way too many guys turn into horrible things because of PUA. I think pickup is a great thing, it has helped innumerable amounts of men, but it has also hurt innumerable amounts of men. I just have a lot of issues with what pickup teaches. That girls are "targets", that this new product will "blow the competition out of the water", that girls are just dirty sluts looking for the next dick to suck, not to mention you can just end up being weird.

You are right. I am slightly peeved at how this community can be considered a good majority of it is bullshit with some nice marketing on top.

I suppose it is time for another break... we'll see.

[wespeezy]

Actaully, one of the things that can help you stay in a good state and keep your confidence UP after a bad interaction, is blaming it on the girl.

"Say she was bitchy", "Wasn't that attractive anyways" etc.

Now it may not be true, but it helps to keep yourself in a positive mindset.

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Jun 10, 2010 16:00:36 GMT -5 @wespeezy said:

Actaully, one of the things that can help you stay in a good state and keep your confidence UP after a bad interaction, is blaming it on the girl.

"Say she was bitchy", "Wasn't that attractive anyways" etc.

Now it may not be true, but it helps to keep yourself in a positive mindset.

I'm not going to lie, I'm still at a crossroads at this idea.

You can lie to yourself and say that, "the girl was a bitch, yadda, yadda, yadda" and keep your state going or you can actually sit down and say to yourself, "I obviously did something wrong here, what could I have done better?"

It's stated that optimists view negative things as things out of their control (this is a perfect example), and I used to think the same way, but you never progress that way. What if you could have changed something to get a better reaction/result/ect?

I think the best way is to sit down and ask yourself what you could have done better and I think the only way this messes with your state is if you beat yourself up over it. Once, you realize that humans make mistakes and that's how you learn you stop beating yourself up and can progress while still assessing each situation correctly.

Hmm... I guess I'm not at a crossroads anymore

[RMO]

^ agreed

Pardon my language but the combination of not giving a fuck, as in not letting your emotions control you, and a positive outlook, inspired by seeking peace, allows you to attain state and not allow negative vibes to effect you. You don't need to blame the girl, if the girl is actually a problem then its either your fault for seeking damaged good, or you genuinely found a bad egg and you will learn to veer away from girls exhibiting those characteristics.

Also good point on PUA bullshit, in general it seems like people just pump useless amounts of focus on specific incidents adding all the PUA acronyms to make it sound good, instead of focusing on the thought process and attitude which once they become congruent with your personality generate attraction.

I respect the shit out of women, but that does not mean I'm their bitch, I understand that the hot ones are usually annoyed by many annoying guys and I decide to stand out not by being a douche bag and wearing weird clothes but instead giving her a new experience. Yes all girls are unique, but it is unlikely that you will find the one more then once while gaming so you need to understand that girls are not better or worse, just different.

[perceverance]

don't let the girl get to your head dude. she wasn't good enough for you and thats that. she did not know what she had and she lost it. simple as that, integrate that into your head as i have and you will have no problem with rejection.