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Post by canadiankid on Feb 17, 2011 1:52:29 GMT -5
So recently I've been doing alot of thinking about how I want a great, steady, solid woman in my life. Someone more than a friend, and way more then a casual hook up. I was talking to my cousin and she was berating me for my latest exploits lol and telling me why I should get a girlfriend. Although I didn't really like what she was saying she made a few valid points (learning experience, more frequent sex (actual that was my add in lol), caring about someone/them caring about you and some other things I don't remember ). Now my cousin isn't some ugly chick, quite contrary. Shes actually dated an MLB player and is currently dating a very successful awesome guy (she's basically the girl all you mo fos would be trying to game). So that said I did find her perspectives interesting. Apart from the fact that she called every girl I've hooked up with a tramp lol and that she thinks you have to buy a girl a drink to take her home. This was the day before valentines day and I said something about the girl I like. She said everything the opposite of PU, like get her flowers and ask her out. Nah not my style (cocky bad boy) but after today when I ran some of my better game on my oneitis without all that much progress, I figure a hybrid of the two may work well on certain types of girls. I'm talking self confident, classy not hook up type girls. Now she did acknowledge the effectiveness of some PU concepts I introduced not as PU (c/f, social value in HS, confidence, that I can think of off the top of my head). She did however think that dates, romance and normal couple stuff is important. Now if you think about it, she makes a point. Non PUAs get girls too, lots of guys take hot girls on dates and continue dating them. I'm not hating on PU cause I think alot of it is awesome, but guys do get girls without these tactics we have. So before I get told I'm going soft and reverting to afc over my oneitis, what do you guys actually think about this, it's chances of working, thoughts on how, or personal experiences similar? I'm going to try it and hopefully there will be a detailed FR to follow.
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Post by RMO on Feb 17, 2011 15:40:15 GMT -5
Well you have to remember that the most basic motivation for guys and girls
guys: hook up as much as possible and leave the girls
girls: to snag a good guy and keep ahold of him.
Now that is really generalized, and stuff like oneitis or sluts can disprove it, for the most part those are the motivations.
It all depends on what you want. I personally have yet to reach the point where a relationship works for me. I am currently dating, but my gut feelings dont like it all, but that story has yet to finish.
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Post by amarok on Feb 17, 2011 17:43:09 GMT -5
I'm really glad this was brought up. I've never been one to hook up (never have, honestly) and all my gut feelings have always said being in a steady relationship is better. The more I've tried to incorporate contrasting styles of PU into my own, the more I feel I'm losing myself. It doesn't feel *right* being blatantly sexual straight out. I'll explain more later.
In my opinion, your cousin was right and wrong in a couple of ways. I totally agree with dates, I don't really see a problem with them, as long as the bulk of her cost is paid BY HER. Buying her stuff, ehhhh. If you're already dating then every now and then spontaneously is good. All of the friends in my close circles WANT to be asked out. If done in a romantic or powerful way, actually asking her out can be quite fulfilling. We all know that girls like the traditional, classy man. Asking her out properly is part of that.
I don't see oneitis as a totally bad thing. Once it starts getting obsessive or debilitating, yes, something needs to be done. But being emotionally attached to one girl isn't such a bad thing. I love it.
Now, I've reconciled recently that my style of PU is gonna be that classier, traditional sense. Why that? Because like Canadian was getting at, different styles work on different girls. And my type of girl doesn't respond to the things I've been trying recently. Now of course this doesn't mean I'm not going to use this stuff like crazy in other situations. This weekend I'm going to Penn. to go snowboarding. You can bet I'll be using the other stuff on these strangers.
All in all, I'm right there with you Canadian.
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Post by RMO on Feb 17, 2011 18:15:38 GMT -5
^ see, everyone has thier own styles.
Something I forgot to add, highschool game is really about dating. Even if you think like me, which is sort of a man slut approach, the rest of the school is all about dating.
But I disagree about the 'classy man' bit. I have class, and I'll go on dates, but the traditional classy man is really in mindset, not going on dates. I may be a manwhore, but Ive been called classy before. Think Sean Connery's James Bond, hes totally classy, but hes also kind of a man whore.
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Post by amarok on Feb 17, 2011 18:25:47 GMT -5
I can agree with that, Prodigy, definitely. And the first impression I got from you was classy XD
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Post by canadiankid on Feb 17, 2011 23:26:58 GMT -5
Lmao my cousin would tear you the fuck apart with birch shield and calling you unclassy (not to be creepy, but she's a "total ten"). I say that my standards are high and I don't hook up with sluts and only hot chicks... She said there's no way anyone can have class if they do one night stands lol. But yeah I'm kinda though all the girls that meet my standards for hook ups and now I want a relationship, problem is there's only maybe three girls I currently know that I would consider. This sounds like I think I'm awesome but it's just otherwise I wouldn't feel attraction or we'd fight lots. Thus I'm going to change it up and find a LTR. Plus then grad date is taken care of
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Post by canadiankid on Feb 17, 2011 23:39:28 GMT -5
lol I'm not even going to fix the autocorrect error
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Post by RMO on Feb 18, 2011 18:13:42 GMT -5
I'm going to delegate back to
classy is a mindset.
But if I have to become her version of 'classy' to get with her, that would be a hell no . She's got a steroetypical 'love is when the guy is the bitch' attitude
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Post by canadiankid on Feb 18, 2011 18:19:47 GMT -5
I know what you mean about the mindset. Her bf ain't a bitch though haha he's fucking awesome, definitly a natural.
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Post by canadiankid on Feb 20, 2011 1:03:34 GMT -5
Although I haven't had a chance to fully try my theory here is some preliminary results: Compliments are good, just not too many. Words with sexual undertones like hot and sexy are really powerful. You signal your intentions and yet she likes that you noticed she tried to look nice for you. Instead of hey/hi on texts I'll say "hey sexy" or "hey babe(baby)" or even "hey there pretty lady" (tons of smileys from that one)
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