Touch vs. Talk!

[Andrew]

HERES THE DEAL.

You can't do anything without touch. You can't kiss her, you can't HUG her, you can't hold hands with her, you can't grab boob, you sure as hell cant have sex with her. Those in some way or another are pretty much the things you wanna be doing with a girl. Women are lovely, and they are AWESOME to touch.


Ladies and gentlemen the whole point of what we are doing here is trying to make her FEEL GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOU. So kino is important cause you're making her FEEL you

So if you dont touch her, you don't fucking touch her. So you should probably touch her. I don't want ANYBODY to think that I'm dissing kino in any way or reducing it's importance.

What you need to do is stop being afraid of HER body. And people don't need to get BETTER at kino. As long as you're confident in yourself and not afraid of her, then just touch her normally. You can't be like "playful touch in 3, 2, 1." Theres NOTHING natural about that. As long as you're not afraid of her body then you do what comes naturally.

So if you're with her, you better be touching her. Don't stand away from her or have awkward floating arm.

That all being said...

I've hooked up with girls where FIRST TIME I touched her was us hooking up, and this was after a week of JUST texting and fb, no talking in person. Cause I made her FEEL. That's JUST WORDS and ZERO touching. Doesn't make me a chode OR a super pimp, I just know how to make a girl FEEL.

Why the fuck do you think girls like erotica so much more than guys do (and they do by the way)? They are much more emotional and mental creatures than we are. You can make her FEEL ANYTHING by how you talk to her and what you say. I had a girl take me from a HARD friendzone to wanting to wake me up with a blowjob after I fall asleep inside her in about 30 minutes of JUST facebook chat.

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Guess what? THEY'RE BOTH IMPORTANT! They both can make a girl feel good things about you, and that's the whole point of EVERYTHING. Neither should be knocked.


Communication may only be 7% verbal, but you can make her FEEL with anything.


-Andrew

[taxman]

Yeah ross jeffries teaches a lot on how to seduce with words. I think if you don't have your touch sorted, sort it out and if you don't have your verbal seduction sorted, sort it out. Its as simple as that. No inbetween. Andrew what you actually said to those girls didn't actually mean much I rate. That 7% isn't worth cracking a nut over. .. The subcomms behind your words prob did the deed for you, your confidence in your words and being comfortable doing you. If you don't have touch or talk sorted you gonna come of creepy and the best way to learn it is to practice.

[Andrew]

Everybody has their own styles. What works for some people might not work for others. The point of this post was to dispel the rumors that one of these subjects is useless.



I'm trying to back you up here, at least a little bit. I like you, but you seem to have a knack for picking out only what you disagree on people's posts.

I'm nineteen and I know what I'm doing and whats working because I've been doing it for a very long time. While I thank you for the effort, I know what did the deed for me.


And while I appreciate the banter, I couldn't give two shits what you rate my game

[taxman]

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[RMO]

im kind of with savant here

WTF?

its a good post andrew, dont get me wrong, but savants post isnt an attack and he doesnt rate your game. Sure Savant is a little rough around the edges, but it would appear hes just discussing the topic man.

I personally prefer in person game not because its better then facebook or txt, but because I love the emotions involved in face to face contact. see? discussion.

[Andrew]

alright alright aint nobody callin anyone a jive turkey here, but you did rate my game. made some comment about whats worth cracking a nut over, but then took it back.

No sense getting all of a tizzy about it



and yeah I prefer in person too because you can use SO MUCH more to make her feel, versus JUST your words. But words are still important.




P.S.

[nutrick]

yeah. i've found touching the female specimen equates to a rise in success of attraction. lulz 8-B and lol @ jive turkey, sounds like a pretty hip jazz club. TOUCH ZE GIRL AND TALK TO ZE GIRL.

[Shampoo]

Andrew, whats the key to making girls feel? And is everytime I get a girl because of this.

[Andrew]

I'll hit you with a PM

[Andrew]

I don't want ANYONE to think that I'm dissing kino in any way or reducing it's importance, rather I'm building up the importance of words and how we use them

[wespeezy]

I think the reason why Andrew got defensive here is because of the way savant said:

"Andrew what you actually said to those girls didn't actually mean much I rate. That 7% isn't worth cracking a nut over..."

Its coming off, like a lot of what you have been posting, as insulting to him. The way you post a lot is insulting. And I know you "don't give a shit about what anyone thinks or says about you and you just do you"...but I'm still saying it because to some degree it IS important to see how other people view you.

Its quiet evident that you Savant are very much in favor of using a generous amount of touch with not many words. A lot of PUA's preach the fuck out of that and drill it into your head. Do it your way.

I use a lot of words and play the mental game and then use touch later. Some PUA's might not teach it as much but honestly it is IN MY COLLEGE STUDENT NON PUA-CLUB HOPING NON UGLY EX COMPUTER GEEK MOTHERFUCKER, is the best way to go about girls my age.

[Andrew]

I'm really surprised no one's called us a gay couple by now

[misterflower]

Yeah I like this post a lot. On the touch subject I learned that it's important to know how to touch, sometimes touching a girl can be difficult because a lot of guys just don't know how to do it.

Like touching a girl on her face or her hair way too quickly before you've really built up that momentum. Girls are really protective of those areas of their body I noticed, and if you do something like that too soon, you're bound to get rejected.

I learned that if you touch her subtly at first, almost like it was on accident, until she feels almost numb to what you're doing, then you can be more overt with your kino, and then repeat the process but maybe move from her arm then her legs and so on.

You can escalate a lot with just your words too. using little sexual innuendos in subtle ways, which I love doing because it triggers her subconcious mind to start thinking sexual and she can't call you out on it because it would just make her look like the pervert since it's so subtle.

[jmac]

I agree with your post totally and I am like you, I can do both and I am always touching girls but it never comes off as creepy. I am huge on the text game and sometimes FB so I totally support you with that shit bro. As good as I am at texting (which I consider myself to be pretty great at it) I would like to see your insight on making them FEEL. I know you made a post on texting but I think it might have been a little vague in some areas so I would like to know how you like to run your text game. I want to make an article on texting and phone game but some kids said there were already enough, I am still deciding because I don't want to post something that takes plenty of time to have it put down. I feel that I will soon though just because I know I am good at the whole texting game and I could probably help some people out. If you want bro hit me with a PM and we could work on something combining our ideas since you seem to have a similar game.

[canadiankid]

May 16, 2011 18:30:55 GMT -5 Andrew said:

I'm really surprised no one's called us a gay couple by now

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