Post by Grape on Feb 9, 2009 15:28:12 GMT -5
They were looking into the science of attraction, pair bonding, etc. last night.
It was actually really funny how our 'secret society' has information that was all mentioned on the show itself.
It mentioned things like survival value and replication value.
Having one partner vs having many partners
How an opposite sex makes you produce chemicals in your brains, which can be addictive.
How body odor is determined by one's immune system.
How women use scent to create attraction.
How the feeling of love has nothing to do with sex. etc.
really frickin useful.
when they interviewd random HBs, they talked about how guys were doing things like DHV spikes. peacocking, and push-pulling.
They literally said those terms. funny.
i'll be posting a ton more info to this post later. i g2g do hw.
stay updated!
<33 Grape
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3 Types of Attraction
All of these kinds of attraction have no direct relationships with each other.
Social Attraction: This is where things like wealth, power, social circle all come into play. A woman needs to choose the mate with a stable social class who will be able to take care of her baby well through his job, leadership, companions, etc. (popularity, coolness, etc.)
Sexual Attraction: Attraction caused by hormones, testosterone, pheromones, etc. This attraction increases the more someone has sex, the more one is surrounded by a sexual environment, and also by stimulation of emotions. (Bunjee jumping, skydiving, rollercoasters)
Comfort Attraction: Attachment and the emotion of LOVE. There is a certain hormone produced when it comes to a monogamic relationship. (dating, marriage, etc.) This hormone will attach the partners together and make it very hard for them to separate. It's made through having children, building rapport, and having a 'one-ness'.
Sexual attraction:
A women finds a man 'sexy' if he has a high testosterone level, which makes him more masculine. 90% of women who were PMSing said this, along with a 50-60% portion of women who were not PMSing nor in a sexual state.
Testosterone is detected in many ways by females:
- Our body odor
- Our saliva
- Our facial expression
Our body odor is determined by our immune system, it's health and it's unique goods and bads, and our testosterone level. Sweat contains bacteria + testosterone chemicals. A women smells you and subconsciously determines whether you are a healthy male or not. (Discovery Channel studies have proven this.)
Our saliva is exchanged while kissing. This is a part of the reason why the first kiss is so important. If you lack a high testosterone level, your kiss won't leave that instinctive impulse in a female that will drive her towards you. If you do have a high testosterone level, she'll know it and she'll desire you as a sexual partner even more.
Our facial expression is correlated to the health and testosterone in our bodies. The better the health and higher the testosterone, the more attractive the face to a sexual woman. So... exercise and stop masturbating!
What is testosterone?
Testosterone makes a male become more competitive, not able to focus on logistics, and makes him become a very 'primitive' ideal.
He will rely on his emotions, and do whatever it takes to fuck his target.
Testosterone levels are increased when:
- A female shows off skin
- A female showing off sexuality
- An experience of intense emotions occurs
However, testosterone is only needed for just ONE of the three attractions.
You must build comfort attraction and social attraction, which can not directly be generated through having a high testosterone level.
What is social attraction?
Try to imagine a cave-woman carrying her baby in one arm and some sticks and stones with her other.
Awkward right?
This is why women needed to have men assist them and take care of them while they took care of their babies.
They wouldn't choose the men who they knew would not be confident or strong enough to support the family when an enemy tribe was invading and wanted to kill the babies. They wanted a man who was strong, powerful, and actually knew what he was doing.
Social attraction, otherwise known as social value, DHV, popularity, fame is generated by:
- Being intelligent
- Being an alpha male
- Being mature
- Being fatherly
- Being a leader
- Being confident
You get the picture.
So in the modern world, social attraction is generated by being the guy with a lot of friends, being the mature one who everyone loves, being the captain of the sports team, being the one who everyone wishes they could be. Become this guy of high social class.
What is comfort attraction?
Rapport. Comfort. Love.
What good is a sexually attractive and socially attractive man if he will be too busy to care specifically for the woman?
Comfort attraction is built through becoming personal with the woman and building TRUST that neither of you will leave each other.
It's about being there for her, being a nice guy who will meet her agreements, kinda like an AFC. Make her fall in 'love'.
So... comfort attraction is really built through becoming more responsive to the woman and doing what she wants. Really sounds like a characteristic of a beta-male AFC loser right?
Won't acting like an AFC screw up my game?
Well.. you need to realize. Most AFCs can ONLY build comfort attraction. Girls don't see them as sexually attractive nor socially attractive. However if you have the other two set, THEN you can build comfort attraction and still get some action.
Just remember, without any one of the three attractions, you won't be the partner she needs.
Why You Need All Three
These attractions are very similar to Mystery's M3 Model.
His definition of attraction is.. Social Attraction.
His idea of comfort is.. Comfort Attraction.
His view of seduction is.. Sexual Attraction.
This man had all 3 angles covered. THIS is why he was successful with women.
Let's look at how not having just one of these will fail you.
Social + Comfort = The boyfriend who doesn't get laid. He's popular and he's very close with his girlfriend. They're in "love", but they're just not sexual with each other. No lay. No fuck. No babies.
Social + Sexual = An early divorce. Without that emotion of love and comfort, they may have sex, but it will be regretted because they will indulge in polygamies where they have several other partners. Cheating, Divorce, Separation. No family. No future. Fail.
Comfort + Sexual = This is the situation for most 'love stories' these days where the loser guy falls in love with the hot popular girl.
Relationships like this won't last very long because the girl will eventually get a sense of low self esteem, and a guy of more social attractiveness will steal her away from the guy. Without that factor of showing off your value of a successful social life, having lots of friends, being a part of something important, your relationship will NOT go well.
Overall: You need to cover ALL THREE angles. It's not that hard, just be a cool guy who is sexy and get personal with the chick. That translates to: Be socially attractive who is sexually attractive and build comfort attraction.
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I hope you guys enjoyed this post! Thank you for reading and post your views on this! It's everything I got out of watching the show.
<33 Grape
It was actually really funny how our 'secret society' has information that was all mentioned on the show itself.
It mentioned things like survival value and replication value.
Having one partner vs having many partners
How an opposite sex makes you produce chemicals in your brains, which can be addictive.
How body odor is determined by one's immune system.
How women use scent to create attraction.
How the feeling of love has nothing to do with sex. etc.
really frickin useful.
when they interviewd random HBs, they talked about how guys were doing things like DHV spikes. peacocking, and push-pulling.
They literally said those terms. funny.
i'll be posting a ton more info to this post later. i g2g do hw.
stay updated!
<33 Grape
====================
3 Types of Attraction
All of these kinds of attraction have no direct relationships with each other.
Social Attraction: This is where things like wealth, power, social circle all come into play. A woman needs to choose the mate with a stable social class who will be able to take care of her baby well through his job, leadership, companions, etc. (popularity, coolness, etc.)
Sexual Attraction: Attraction caused by hormones, testosterone, pheromones, etc. This attraction increases the more someone has sex, the more one is surrounded by a sexual environment, and also by stimulation of emotions. (Bunjee jumping, skydiving, rollercoasters)
Comfort Attraction: Attachment and the emotion of LOVE. There is a certain hormone produced when it comes to a monogamic relationship. (dating, marriage, etc.) This hormone will attach the partners together and make it very hard for them to separate. It's made through having children, building rapport, and having a 'one-ness'.
Sexual attraction:
A women finds a man 'sexy' if he has a high testosterone level, which makes him more masculine. 90% of women who were PMSing said this, along with a 50-60% portion of women who were not PMSing nor in a sexual state.
Testosterone is detected in many ways by females:
- Our body odor
- Our saliva
- Our facial expression
Our body odor is determined by our immune system, it's health and it's unique goods and bads, and our testosterone level. Sweat contains bacteria + testosterone chemicals. A women smells you and subconsciously determines whether you are a healthy male or not. (Discovery Channel studies have proven this.)
Our saliva is exchanged while kissing. This is a part of the reason why the first kiss is so important. If you lack a high testosterone level, your kiss won't leave that instinctive impulse in a female that will drive her towards you. If you do have a high testosterone level, she'll know it and she'll desire you as a sexual partner even more.
Our facial expression is correlated to the health and testosterone in our bodies. The better the health and higher the testosterone, the more attractive the face to a sexual woman. So... exercise and stop masturbating!
What is testosterone?
Testosterone makes a male become more competitive, not able to focus on logistics, and makes him become a very 'primitive' ideal.
He will rely on his emotions, and do whatever it takes to fuck his target.
Testosterone levels are increased when:
- A female shows off skin
- A female showing off sexuality
- An experience of intense emotions occurs
However, testosterone is only needed for just ONE of the three attractions.
You must build comfort attraction and social attraction, which can not directly be generated through having a high testosterone level.
What is social attraction?
Try to imagine a cave-woman carrying her baby in one arm and some sticks and stones with her other.
Awkward right?
This is why women needed to have men assist them and take care of them while they took care of their babies.
They wouldn't choose the men who they knew would not be confident or strong enough to support the family when an enemy tribe was invading and wanted to kill the babies. They wanted a man who was strong, powerful, and actually knew what he was doing.
Social attraction, otherwise known as social value, DHV, popularity, fame is generated by:
- Being intelligent
- Being an alpha male
- Being mature
- Being fatherly
- Being a leader
- Being confident
You get the picture.
So in the modern world, social attraction is generated by being the guy with a lot of friends, being the mature one who everyone loves, being the captain of the sports team, being the one who everyone wishes they could be. Become this guy of high social class.
What is comfort attraction?
Rapport. Comfort. Love.
What good is a sexually attractive and socially attractive man if he will be too busy to care specifically for the woman?
Comfort attraction is built through becoming personal with the woman and building TRUST that neither of you will leave each other.
It's about being there for her, being a nice guy who will meet her agreements, kinda like an AFC. Make her fall in 'love'.
So... comfort attraction is really built through becoming more responsive to the woman and doing what she wants. Really sounds like a characteristic of a beta-male AFC loser right?
Won't acting like an AFC screw up my game?
Well.. you need to realize. Most AFCs can ONLY build comfort attraction. Girls don't see them as sexually attractive nor socially attractive. However if you have the other two set, THEN you can build comfort attraction and still get some action.
Just remember, without any one of the three attractions, you won't be the partner she needs.
Why You Need All Three
These attractions are very similar to Mystery's M3 Model.
His definition of attraction is.. Social Attraction.
His idea of comfort is.. Comfort Attraction.
His view of seduction is.. Sexual Attraction.
This man had all 3 angles covered. THIS is why he was successful with women.
Let's look at how not having just one of these will fail you.
Social + Comfort = The boyfriend who doesn't get laid. He's popular and he's very close with his girlfriend. They're in "love", but they're just not sexual with each other. No lay. No fuck. No babies.
Social + Sexual = An early divorce. Without that emotion of love and comfort, they may have sex, but it will be regretted because they will indulge in polygamies where they have several other partners. Cheating, Divorce, Separation. No family. No future. Fail.
Comfort + Sexual = This is the situation for most 'love stories' these days where the loser guy falls in love with the hot popular girl.
Relationships like this won't last very long because the girl will eventually get a sense of low self esteem, and a guy of more social attractiveness will steal her away from the guy. Without that factor of showing off your value of a successful social life, having lots of friends, being a part of something important, your relationship will NOT go well.
Overall: You need to cover ALL THREE angles. It's not that hard, just be a cool guy who is sexy and get personal with the chick. That translates to: Be socially attractive who is sexually attractive and build comfort attraction.
==============================
I hope you guys enjoyed this post! Thank you for reading and post your views on this! It's everything I got out of watching the show.
<33 Grape
