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Post by Sloth on Mar 8, 2009 15:59:04 GMT -5
how different have you guys found teen game from normal game. i know alot of the concepts are the same, but i've found a lot of game openers that shouldn't be used in teen game, mainly cause i've found that at my age, 15, and in the UK, alot of girls are retarded, or have a reaction to being spoken to by a stranger where they act like idiots, lol.
Any thoughts on the matter?
please post any openers you've found that work/should be avoided
Cheers
Sloth - x
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Post by optimus on Mar 9, 2009 23:39:17 GMT -5
Gaming at school is hardcore social circle stuff. Basically being alpha and controlling every frame that comes your way.
At least in the US, cold approach isn't very different from the grownup stuff. Are you approaching singles or groups? I can imagine girls freaking out if they were alone and you approached.
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Post by Sloth on Mar 10, 2009 13:21:45 GMT -5
Yeah at school it's all about alpha.
and mainly groups
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Post by Paetar on Mar 14, 2009 4:30:30 GMT -5
Ohh, this is a nice question . So first, girls in HS have low self-esteem in general. As they grow older, they develop personalities and behavior we all know from ebooks, but before that... you never know what are they going to do. Many (most) girls are socially and sexually inexperienced. IDK how is it in other parts of the world, but here in Croatia they tend to look for a guy they will spend their high school with. Basically, when a girl here finds a boyfriend that she likes, she'll stick to him no matter what. So in my opinion it's better to go for singles. Second, because of their inexperience (again, this varies a lot - someone who goes out a lot and someone who doesn't go out at all won't have the same level of experience and you MUST calibrate yourself to that) most of the stuff that PUA's teach to "never do" will work here. These girls haven't been approached three thousand times (or how much did Mystery count on one occasion). So almost any opener will work (as long as it's not stupid). And I don't think that talking about your ex-gf from college who believed in U-shaped smiles will have nearly as much effect as it should. Then, social circles - these overlap. The more social circles acknowledge you as a "cool person, great guy to be around" the more popular you'll be. And I'm talking EVERYONE - NO ONE IS BELOW YOU. That's why high-status people are popular in HS - because they make the low-status near them feel like gods. So treat everyone equally (calibrate, but have the same rules for them) and meet as many people as possible. Mostly - and I'm talking from experience here - you need to have your intent in your mind all the time. SOI heavily if you're being friendly/social. Literally, "make the ho say no." Go caveman when necessary. Never stop. I have this problem a lot. Women later in life, they assign meaning to every action you do. Subtle IOI's, those eye-contacts... While HS girls remain oblivious to that. Women later in life know how rare it is to find someone that they like as much as me or you. So they'll pursue. On the other hand, HS girls will RARELY pursue anyone - they'll more likely cry in bedroom because he doesn't see them. It's because they're insecure. You do know the term one-itis, right? Well if you played the game well, she'll develop an one-itis, will do practically everything because she thinks she's in love. In the end, don't expect one-night-stands (or sex for that matter) for a long time. Unless you fly in on a "total slut" (I mean, sexually aware girl there will be sex only later in relationship. PS: A quick tip - when you see a girl that's sitting by herself and doesn't have a lot of friends - or any friends - there's usually a reason behind it. No matter how hot she is.
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Post by ascendancy on Jun 2, 2009 20:46:18 GMT -5
+1 Paetar. Good post!
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Post by Mr. Scientist on Jun 2, 2009 22:13:17 GMT -5
hi 5 to you sloth.. The reaction from teens in my country is exactly the same..lame. So I normally talk much slower with more pauses so that she could absorb what I say. And all the canned materials made popular my Mystery and Co ... I never use them, cause no one understand them at all. =.=
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Post by darkpwns on Jun 3, 2009 2:50:13 GMT -5
I think teen game is absolutely awesome. Gaming girls in the real world requires many formulas while for us all we have to do is know a little how girls work and be funny. Being strategic and having fun...is hard to do. I think that's why Mystery is so messed up in the head.
The fangs of the teenage girls are much duller than an adult woman's making it easier to succeed. The negative side of teenage girls is that you'll rarely end up with a lay on the first meet. What Praetar said about the girls developing one-itis was right (and hella funny too). Girls in high-school rarely meet guys like us...guys who know what they're doing. They're constantly surrounded by chodes giving us so much of an edge that its not even funny. If you're into boyfriend destroying many of the girls have "nice" boyfriends...they are more than simple to destroy. The other ones have boyfriends who are too much asshole, not enough funny. If you're calibrated fine getting rid of a girl's boyfriend is pretty easy.
Social circles in high-school are easier than out there in the real world since its such a warm (albeit dramatic and stressful) environment. High-school being the stressful environment that it is needs someone to be an escape from all of it. Most people lose themselves in the drama and start talking smack and all that stuff...it actually gets them places somehow. Its much easier to be the guy who doesn't talk crap and be the one everyone genuinely likes than to be the guy who talks crap and vainly tries to keep up relationships that have already crumbled. High school doesn't have enough of these people so being one of these folks will make people gravitate towards you.
From my experience, almost any opener will do. An opener is just an ice breaker. Openers more direct (not full on direct but mostly direct) work pretty well.
Methods are fine to know but in high-school the best thing you can do is find a natural to take you under his wing. Learning from a natural gives you more tools to succeed in high school AND outside of high-school than any method can so long as you're committed to changing.
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Post by Mr. Scientist on Jun 3, 2009 2:57:21 GMT -5
Do you have any tips for teen game amogging???
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Post by nagarith on Jun 11, 2009 18:52:08 GMT -5
Methods are fine to know but in high-school the best thing you can do is find a natural to take you under his wing. Learning from a natural gives you more tools to succeed in high school AND outside of high-school than any method can so long as you're committed to changing. This, find a good old natural and become his best friend. I don't mean a guy who's decent, find a REAL natural, you DHV just by being with them.
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Post by rammi on Aug 5, 2009 21:55:26 GMT -5
Girls are more superficial so looks and having status is everything in a social circle. When cold approaching just use an interesting opinion opener, teen girl relevant. I like to transition with Twilight. Teasing works great but be very careful with negs, due to their lse. In general I would say that attraction is pretty ease. I havent sarged adult women, but teen girls giggle and hit you very easy. Tease them and attraction is a piece of cake. The problem is getting to fuck them. Many girls dont want to fuck outside a relationship.
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Post by rammi on Aug 6, 2009 22:57:17 GMT -5
"So I normally talk much slower with more pauses so that she could absorb what I say." Just be carefull once they get really comfortable. Then if you dont lead the conversation you will find she has been talking to you non stop at 20 words per second about some stupid thing (and I mean stupid!) for the last 15 minutes.
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