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Post by cork on Aug 28, 2009 1:23:47 GMT -5
My name is not Cork. I don't like the name, it just popped into my head. I'm tall, slender and tan, and have golden brown hair and eyes to match. I have a way with words, I can sing amazingly and I'm Extemely confident. So why am I an AFC?
Last weekend, my friend and I went to the mall. He had read The Game by Niel Strauss. I hadn't yet. About 2 hours into our sorry excuse for sarging, two very hot girls (hb8 or 9) passed us by, turned around and told me they liked my shorts. (is this an IOI or just teasing?) They proceeded to walk away, looking back and giggling. After this happened a few more times (pathetic, I know) We finally got up the guts to talk to these girls. eventually, my friend bought them smoothies at a stand and went to the restroom. Next thing I knew, I found myself making out with both girls at the same time.
So I have social proof, in a sense.
SO WHY AM I AN AFC?
Like a lot of you, I've read through many of the countless writings of Mystery and Style, including THE GAME, sat through what must be nearly every lecture that's ever been recorded of Mystery and Lovedrop's, but something's missing...
All of today's great PUAs seek to educate an audience that excludes me.
I'm in High School. Sure, there's principles and gambits that are universal, but I don't know how much game can be stretched down to my age level as a sophomore in high school.
So this question is mainly posed to the supervisors: are there any techniques and material designed specifically for my age group on which i can base my own gambits? If so, I'd love to keep this thread going, because I know a lot of us here are in the same boat..
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Post by Grape on Aug 28, 2009 9:00:35 GMT -5
Ahh Welcome man!!
1. Don't get into the whole deal with using canned routines and gambits. DONT. If you woud like, I can explain to you why this won't work as well as other 'methods'.
But if you can make out with 2 chicks at the same time, you're not an AFC. You're a horny guy who wants sex like all of us.
So let's rephrase your question. You're not an AFC. You can make out with 2 chicks at once.
What's the problem again?
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Post by SenorBubbz on Aug 28, 2009 9:27:12 GMT -5
So let's rephrase your question. You're not an AFC. You can make out with 2 chicks at once. What's the problem again? Exactly what I was thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2009 11:17:41 GMT -5
See: Social Circle and Natural Game
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Post by Alek on Aug 28, 2009 12:22:50 GMT -5
Well, first dont think of creating material first. First and foremost, you need to learn the reason behind why things work. Why material and routines work. And whats the point of it, and whats its purpose? Once when you understand why, then you can create your own stuff. But really, once when you understand simple things...you can just make up your own in field during the moment.
Things you need to learn is: Why IOD's work, and when to use them (negs, false disqualifyers ect. fall under this). Why IOI's work, and when to use them (soi's fall here of course). Calibration, Push - pulls, prizability, cocky funny.
Once when you know why things work, you can just wing it.
Btw, where are you from?
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Post by Volt on Aug 28, 2009 23:16:09 GMT -5
From you're description, you're not a chump, and you don't sound average. You're frustrated, but not sexually.
I really don't see a problem.
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Post by cork on Aug 29, 2009 2:29:47 GMT -5
The problem, it feels like, is that I'm peering with my nose pressed against the glass at a world of people who do what i've always dreamed of doing, and make it look like they're tying their shoes, it's so easy. I have no problem walking up to a set and opening. I can get to where I sit down and talk. I can strut up to a girl, smile, say "hey, whats up" or "hi i'm Truett"(my name) or any other pathetic, plastic line, but every single time, i get fried, because i don't know how to read the god-forsaken language.
The aforementioned mall girls sought ME out. and not because I'm some kind of AMOG, and not because I made them feel special, but because they liked my shorts, and later discovered that my hair and eyes are even better.
I'm gifted with looks, and have exceptional skill with words, but I ice out whenever I try to shine, because I can't read the cues and duly react.
And therein lies the rub. That's where I need help.
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Post by SenorBubbz on Aug 29, 2009 13:55:08 GMT -5
Holy shit, you do have a skill with words.
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Post by Alek on Aug 29, 2009 14:58:20 GMT -5
I think you might just need to game more, and eventually you'll pick up on the signs. Do you have facebook?
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Post by cork on Aug 29, 2009 16:01:57 GMT -5
I think you might just need to game more, and eventually you'll pick up on the signs. Do you have facebook? yes, I do. Truett Alexander Harris. I live in McKinney, TX.
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Post by Volt on Aug 29, 2009 17:47:10 GMT -5
It's just practice. There was a day when you really got how to tie your shoes, and there will be a day when you really get women. Don't overthink. It's talking to girls, not planning a war.
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Post by nino g on Aug 30, 2009 0:18:26 GMT -5
just know ur usual negs disqualifyers ftcs false takeaways cold reading during comfort and then u could pretty much wing it from there lol..yeah oh and dont be afriad to pull the trigger gunwicth method make the hoo say no!!
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Post by cork on Aug 30, 2009 0:37:57 GMT -5
Gunwitch says to approach singles and Mystery says to hit groups. Is one more directed for HSPUA or do they just disagree?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2009 0:44:27 GMT -5
Here's the deal:
No one Pick up guru has all the answers. Have you ever noticed how almost every other Pick up guru has completely different approaches to pickup yet they still get amazing results?
I mean Zan goes up to women and tells them they're beautiful (a huge no-no by almost every Pick Up Guru) and it works for him.
All you need is your inner game set up right and an approach that works for you.
That's all it is.
All the routines, all the techniques it's just ways to make you feel confident in what you're doing or to "fake it till you make it".
I have my own method. Some people agree with it some disagree, but it works for me and I get success with it and it will stay that way until my next breakthrough or I decide to switch it up just to test things.
Do what feels natural. Just don't act like an AFC.
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Post by nino g on Aug 30, 2009 1:18:45 GMT -5
lol i rather take a bit of everything from the gurus and just use what works for me like aaron says, make the ho say no is a tight line though.(i like to say that in my head when i get that what ifs when im about to go in for the close or start escalating kino) Anyways thats interesting about that zan dude hmm, but ive always pondered on this" what makes a pua the best?" many say mystery is number1 or they talk about style, then theres speer and im sure a whole lotta mpua/gurus/wannabes who say there the best how is it measured?
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