Dealing with AMOGs

[cork]

My game is far from bad. I can walk up to a set and open with no problem. But when it comes to in-school gaming, my problem isn't approach. It's AMOGing. In a world where social proof cant be made up, and whatever reputation you make follows you everywhere, AMOGing is killer. Once I open, there's always another guy who knows the girls better, smokes with them (and I don't smoke) or is just overall better at taking charge. So how do I hold my own? Do i just stick to out of school gaming?

[Chris]

obviously the answer is NOT just stick to out of school gaming,
you gotta tackle the problem, not avoid it.

AMOGing actually isn't that hard. In fact if you are doing
everything right in the moment, you rarely have to actively amog,
because the girls will be focused on you.

As for AMOGing as in-he's an obstacle, just focus on neutralizing
him. There are articles Tyler Durden has put together through
out the internet you could read but work on taking him out of
any state. A good way to do that is when he enters the set, say
"heyy dude, youre looking kinda tired." or something along those
lines. he will probably live up to what you just said.

[4am]

ok BODY LANGUAGE IS KEY.

second smoking is an undesirable trait. ( wow do i ever sound like a woman)

also in school gaming is one of the greatest things, i can tell you i look forward to going to school most of the time just because i know im going to have a great time being C&F with all the girls. try to do some rsd and think of these 2 theories they help me out alot

#1 BIG DICK theory ( self-explanitory)

#2 IDG Frame ( i dont give a fuck frame, for dealing with the amogs)

whatch some top gun and disect everything maverick does, also i know ill prolly get flammed on this but, heres one of the biggest confidence boosters ever.

START WORKING OUT.

a couple of reasons for this. not only do you gain muscle but, you get more attention, feel more confident and people will recognize it. also a big one is when you start going to the gym befriend all the people that normally go there ( all the amogs) and ask them for ticks and tips they will be more than happy to talk about it.

and finally get some cool v-necks girls FUCKING love them!

GL

[Grape]

okay idk if you're talking about college or HS.

but if you are interested in the dumb shits who smoke DURING SCHOOL, my best advice is for you to find new friends.


other than that, I am very confused with your mindset.
WHen you say you open the sets, are you tlaking about like full on canned opener or just a simple whats up?

and also you are probably being amogged b/c you are not as interesting as the other guy.

you can only be interesting if you ARE interesitng and you ARE interesting if you are having fun and laughing. This shows to others how chill of a life you have..


and.. dude. this wont be solved with one simple habit switch.

You need to read up. Seriously.

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[WhiteKnight]

Seeing how most people that replied to this have freshman/sophemore tag I only have 1 good thing to say. You guys are acting your age, I get so sick of the young kids that try to fuck with me and I'm not gonna be an aggressive ass and ropeneck em for it. I could...but I don't. Anyways I digress, EVERYTHING IN MODERATION. Smoking cigarettes...ehh avoid it not a good habit to get into, smoking can help you at parties though if you can't get any caffeine-knowing how to smoke a cig and look cool while doing it is NOT a bad thing. Smoking weed isn't bad at all, and depending where you live it really is somewhat crucial in becoming popular. Again everything in moderation but starting to smoke bud and drink around junior year, if you are ready sophemore. Its really not a bad thing, better to get over it quickly than eventually find out you have become a total hypocrite.
Oh and I don't know how to deal with AMOGs either, its kinda funny the really popular 2 coolest seniors like me cause I'm funny. We aren't great friends but they don't really give me shit if I ever am hanging with or around them, the kids below are the annoying ones. It's like I'm trying to move up and they wanna hold me down...Read the 08-09 guide here. There is a section about being a real man, if you watch entourage think of Vince or "E". Vince is that ideal alpha man you want to be. You don't wanna rule by tyranny but if guys don't follow your alphaness-where I am right now, I think it's time to say fuck em' and leave them behind for a lil while. They may still be good friends, but until they realize you are growing up and they become ready to do so they will probably be asses. People hate when they are surpassed, that's what makes AMOGing so hard in school. I think you should practice dominating out of school, get some OOS aquantinces that Demonstrate your new value. Then play the role of the bridge, and let people hit a brick wall as they turn their head to see the new you...this is when you AMOG and assume your role as King.

[Grape]

lmfao. freshmen sophomore are simply tags of how much posts you have on this forum.
most people are actually seniors.

btw, i've met tons of seniors just as immature as freshmen. don't judge bro or people will judge back.

[gansta344u]

no ofesnse nobigdeal but using illegal drugs which can cause you damage ( yes weed is fucking worse then cigarettes thats why its illegal ) i dont think to fit in you should give into peer pressure. drugs aint no fun n games you can die from that shit.. and to do it for fitting it seems pathetic and sorta AFCish . also usually you cant do drugs "moderately" hence the term HIGHLY addictive, you can just stop , you can but its very hard !
Find other ways to deal with AMOGs !

[Dream]

"weed is fucking worse then cigarettes thats why its illegal"
Check your facts. Science proves you wrong.

"to do it for fitting it seems pathetic and sorta AFCish"
True. However people can do mind expanding drugs for other reasons.

"usually you cant do drugs "moderately" hence the term HIGHLY addictive"
actually, it's very possible. Lots of people do it. And actually, many drugs are not chemically addictive.

One point I'd like to make is that smoking is only undesirable if you don't smoke. So it's a context thing.

Anyway, i'm not just coming on here to correct people, it's just that usually I agree with most things I see on here, and don't have my own theories to add (after all I do not to want to become a professional PUA). Therofore I can come across as a whiny bitch because my only posts are corrections. How little I post is a testament to this forum's awesomeness

[RMO]

going off dream
weed, or marijuana
is illegal becuase the plant it comes from (weed is the bulb) is hemp. Hemp and cotton are structurally the same except hemp is cheaper to grow and it is stronger than cotton. So the cotton manufactures lobbied the government to make it illegal.

[gansta344u]

""usually you cant do drugs "moderately" hence the term HIGHLY addictive"
actually, it's very possible. Lots of people do it. And actually, many drugs are not chemically addictive."

yeah a lot of people may do it but it depends on you the person, its all in your genes
some people are prone to get more addicted to it also your personality and emotional state has a lot to do with it . Also just because a lot of people do it don't mean when you do it it will be the same


and weed does cause more damage then cigarettes (either way both mean bad news ) since the dopamine receptors in your brain become crazy and more dependent on the drug ... after a while leading to depression and possibly suicide trust me i know weed isn't nothing to mess with .. a cousin of mine became mentally insane after smoking it

If you want to do it go ahead but it isn't something to be taken lightly

[Dream]

Sure, some people go nuts. Some people become obese because they go nuts over food, but I don't lobby to ban it.

Just because a thing can have negative consequences, doesn't mean it will. And there are many cases of drugs helping people (especially medically). As always, be sensible.
xX

[gansta344u]

true...

anything to an excess is bad for you !
Maybe
but to me drugs to fit in dosent seem right
maybe to some1 else it does but thats just my opinion so
=D

[Andrew]

Meh. I smoke occasionally. Im more of a once every other week kinda guy.

I have friends that are every dayers and I have friends who are morally super-against it.

Basically, its all about the doors you want to socially open or close for yourself. Not smoking is going to close some doors, and those might not be some doors you want anyway, and thats cool too. Smoking a lot is DEFINATELY going to close some doors, and you might want to keep those doors open.
Im an occasional kind of guy because quite frankly I enjoy it sometimes, but I definately dont need it to have a good time or even party. My friends who dont smoke either dont know I do, or dont care. I dont really talk about it that much. They know it isnt a huge deal for me.

Ultimately, it is about opening the doors you want open, but being wary of those you are potentially closing.

[Dream]

^ True dat.

"drugs to fit in dosent seem right "
NOBODY HAS SAID THAT.

[phoenix]

Wow, back to the the question this guy was asking... Sets should be opened by addressing the GUY first with your body language or opener, kino establishment or whatever. The default move should be to try and befriend him. If that doesn't work, the typical cold approach move is to try and IGNORE him, talk over him, and/or cut him out of the group physically, although this is limited in a school environment. If the dominance of the AMOG starts to get out of control, fire up the negs.

If these don't work, although there is no reason befriending him wouldnt work if done properly, then you can bust out the old-school AMOGging tactics as a last resort. These include a plethora of routines created by Tyler Durden, which attempt to clown any competitors.