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Post by nutrick on Feb 2, 2009 22:06:15 GMT -5
how would you do this? let's say it's 2-3 people with one of them being your target. would you take the attention of your target like you would at a club? (neg her, befriend non targets, etc.) if so, how could i isolate her? i wouldn't want to leave her friends hanging. or another option could be (to target) "since i didn't talk to you much, how about you give me your number and we can talk later =]" please respond with a step by step way of how you would handle it. thanks
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Post by optimus on Feb 3, 2009 1:01:02 GMT -5
Right forum?
Anywho:
1. Rather than asking for a step-by-step, go out into the mall and try some improvised game. The come back and write a field report and we'll offer feedback. 2. The two examples you give as things you do at a club are part of pick up anywhere, not just in night game. 3. That number close only works if you see the girl a lot and talk to her often. That kinda defeats the point of doing a cold-approach. 4. Girls are the same everywhere. If you can pick up a girl in a nightclub you can do it in a grocery store or a library.
Anyway, Pickup:
1. Approach. Walk by, over the shoulder opener. (unless you're going direct, but that's something else entirely) 2. Game as usual. A2/A3 whatever. 3. I have yet to find a good way to isolate in a mall, so go for a number close on your target and get together later. 4. If she rejects, don't eject, just continue the conversation and try for a close on one of the other people. Then you can call her and get her to bring her friend ... etc.
Yes those steps are pretty vague, but I'm assuming you know at least a little about pickup. If you don't, there's plenty of material out there for you to learn.
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Post by nutrick on Feb 3, 2009 1:43:54 GMT -5
oh okay, yeah wasn't sure where to put this aha, my bad. anyways, alright i get what your saying. as for my suggestion, i was thinking of saying something like that, where i sort of give her a chance to talk to me, since once i encountered her and her friends, i talked to her friends most of the time and not her. kinda get what i'm saying? thanks though, yeah you're right i should just try and get my hands dirty
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Post by optimus on Feb 4, 2009 0:01:45 GMT -5
I don't really get what you're asking. Are you planning to "accidentally" run into her in the mall?
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Post by nutrick on Feb 4, 2009 2:30:20 GMT -5
I don't really get what you're asking. Are you planning to "accidentally" run into her in the mall? pretty much cold approaching a group of girls at the mall, and # closing on your target who's in this group. after befriending her friends and talking to all of them, how do i get HER(target) number. could it be as easy as just saying "it was nice talking to you guys, hey [target's name], what's your number? i'd like to talk to you again" ehh i'm all mixed up in my "theories" i guess. i need to sleep. good night! hopefully i get a response tomorrow. thanks ;D
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Post by Grape on Feb 4, 2009 14:55:37 GMT -5
Actually i think this category would work as the right one =]
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Post by optimus on Feb 4, 2009 23:43:40 GMT -5
For closing a target in a group (when I can't isolate) I go for one of two approaches:
1) If the girl references someone else (one of her friends) I'll say, "He sounds so cool! What's his number?" Then I'll call/text him and whatever. Most of the time I do this, the target will ask the buddy for my number and text me.
The problem is that she might not. I'd only reccomend it as either an attraction routine (with a diferent close later) or if you only sort of care about getting the girl's number.
2) Steer conversation towards some activity (say, bowling). If your target (AND at least one other) expresses interest, you can say, "Great, we're all going bowling." Give the phone to the target. "Give me your number and we'll set it up."
When you all go bowling you should have a chance to isolate and Comfort game her.
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Post by Volt on Feb 5, 2009 0:48:59 GMT -5
If you've built enough attraction, you don't need a smooth/indirect number close line, just something to the effect of, "I can't leave my friends hanging any more/gotta catch a movie, put your number in" and hand her your phone. Remember, she WANTS to give you her number.
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Post by nutrick on Feb 5, 2009 1:50:16 GMT -5
If you've built enough attraction, you don't need a smooth/indirect number close line, just something to the effect of, "I can't leave my friends hanging any more/gotta catch a movie, put your number in" and hand her your phone. Remember, she WANTS to give you her number. wow, that's a great point. then with the number that's where i build comfort etc. thanks volt, you really helped me connect things. if she's attracted to you, i suppose you can make her do whatever you want. i suppose i should know that, cuz this girl i'm talking to wanted to stay up on the phone, but i told her i had to wake up at 5am, and she told me she'd just wake me up. i was sorta taken aback by it, so i said okay. turns out she didn't aha. oh well, won't let that happen again ;D
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Post by optimus on Feb 5, 2009 23:19:31 GMT -5
If you've built enough attraction, you don't need a smooth/indirect number close line, just something to the effect of, "I can't leave my friends hanging any more/gotta catch a movie, put your number in" and hand her your phone. Remember, she WANTS to give you her number. That works if you're in isolation, but if you try to close a girl in the presence of her friends it won't. Unless she's a total bitch, she'll feel like she's abandoning her friends and get really awkward. If you say "You all," then she's doing the group a favor by giving you her number, so she'll be happy to.
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Post by nutrick on Feb 7, 2009 20:11:41 GMT -5
If you've built enough attraction, you don't need a smooth/indirect number close line, just something to the effect of, "I can't leave my friends hanging any more/gotta catch a movie, put your number in" and hand her your phone. Remember, she WANTS to give you her number. That works if you're in isolation, but if you try to close a girl in the presence of her friends it won't. Unless she's a total bitch, she'll feel like she's abandoning her friends and get really awkward. If you say "You all," then she's doing the group a favor by giving you her number, so she'll be happy to. saying "you all" with what?
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Post by optimus on Feb 8, 2009 23:34:25 GMT -5
Saying it when you're number closing in a group.
The idea is that by giving you her number she is making a commitment on the part of the whole group.
If you asked her for her number so you can take her out, her friends would think that you want her and they'll be jealous/protective.
But if you ask her for her number so you can take her and her friends out, they'll WANT her to give you her number, because then they get to hang out with you.
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Post by Volt on Feb 9, 2009 0:00:48 GMT -5
Yeah I agree include the group, but the point of directly asking for a number is to AVOID awkwardness and convoluted #closes. They're just crutches; a true alpha male knows what he wants and doesn't puss around.
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Post by nutrick on Mar 5, 2009 0:32:15 GMT -5
okay, so i go up and approach, act all fun and get the whole group involved, and then say we should all hangout. set up a get together with all those people, then isolate and get target. now i do have a question on how to isolate at like a bowling alley if it's just me her and her friends, but that's a different thread.
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Post by kristallnachte on Mar 5, 2009 11:29:40 GMT -5
mostly, mall is better for more direct game
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