Raising your state

[Sloth]

Okay so when i'm out i'm thinking a big part of sarging is beign in a good state, cause your more up for it, right?

well how do you raise your state when your like walking through town. Music is a good state raiser but idk, i don't wana plug in my ipod every time i want to raise my state, besides i think it'd have to be blazin out loud for me to be affected.

any other ways to raise your state, especially like one's that require little concious effort.

cheers,

Sloth - x

[Chris]

get your body language in gear. if youre smiling and standing
confidently, your emotions will adjust, its true.

Also if your not in state, dont try to force it. just accept whatever
is happening in the moment. Make it a point to have fun.

[nutrick]

Chris makes a good point in not forcing it. Enjoy yourself. I just had one of the funnest times i've ever had in a mall by myself. The success in sarging will come as a result of having fun.

[sparkogre]

^{Okay so when i'm out i'm thinking a big part of sarging is beign in a good state, cause your more up for it, right?}


Your inner state can be changed pretty damn easily and quickly by your outside actions. Right now: Stand up from your chair, take a deep breath, and smile REALLY BIG LIKE YOU MEAN IT. Do you feel the difference (okay maybe you are light-headed now, but you get the point)? Whenever you're in a "sarging" environment, and you feel kind of out of state, take a deep breath, and smile really big. It just about always works to pump you up. IMO music is good for pumping the state of a COUPLE people together (as in, 2+ people collected at the same place at the same time), but it doesn't do much if you're by yourself.

EDIT: Also, let's make a list of why you think we need to be in-state whenever we sarge:

1. less approach anxiety
2. a feeling that it will make you more charismatic/whatever so that your sets will go better

1. My feeling on the first, is that you need to push through approach anxiety. You CANT USE MUSIC to try and help yourself through it. Usually doesn't work as well as you think. And if it did, what do you do if you just randomly saw somebody you wanted to talk to? Eh? Gonna crack out your ipod and play "Pump up the Jam" next time you see a pretty girl at Starbucks? I don't think so.

2. You know how you think you feel when you've been listening to awesome music? You feel awesome, and everything's just gliding? You need to be able to do that ALL THE TIME. You might think that, oh, "If I just listen to music for a state pump all the time, I'll just naturally be like that." In my personal experience, that is crap. IMO the best way to get stuff to be like that all the time...is to go practice more. To get your tonality and body language and stuff all perfected, I found like some SUPER-AWESOME advice from Cedar over at the attraction forums (I just remember the gist of it, so I'm totally paraphrasing):

-Pick some routines and lines: and opener, a false time constraint, a transition, a neg, some attraction material, some comfort, and a number close. Get this stuff from a good source, such as the Lovesystems' Routine Manual.

-Memorize it all.

-Use THAT EXACT routine stack everytime you approach a girl. Here's why: we KNOW the material works; it's been "field-tested" by a bunch of guys who got results with it. What we need to know is, "how good does your body language and tonality and personality come across?" I think that using this method you can completely eliminate your need for a "state-pump" because you will have honed your delivery and tonality and body language to perfection. After doing 20 sets of saying the same thing, judging their reaction and your non-vocal cues, I guarantee you'll have gotten pretty damn good at it.

[Keysersoze]

AFC adam sums it up for me "I AM GAME"

integrate game into everything, whether it's flirting with your english teacher to get an extension on homework or the 80 year old cat lady... just make these principles become you, so your always social, always flirting, always networking... the key of being in state is to not being in state, just being game...

Pre-game is so under-rated, I think it's the part which can make or break your interactions.... so if your always pre-gaming you'll always be in state, always improving and getting even better interactions...

[Grape]

My advice:

Read the articles in this board and in other forums.
Read the blue print decoded by TD.

and just go out there and sarge with the intent of NOT using routines.

[sparkogre]

^{Pre-game is so under-rated, I think it's the part which can make or break your interactions.... so if your always pre-gaming you'll always be in state, always improving and getting even better interactions...}

I agree with the "integrate game into everything" part, but what do you mean by pre-gaming? Do you actually mean play energetic music everytime before you go out? Because I think that if you need music just to go out and talk to people, you really need to do something about it.

^{and just go out there and sarge with the intent of NOT using routines.}

I would just go with the routine stack, because I think it'll let you get better at predicting reactions and what people think of you and your non-verbal cues much faster than with going "natural-style." Going natural and starting normal conversations will undoubtedly get you results too, but here's the way I see it: If you use routines, there's only one thing you have to concentrate on: the non-verbals (presence, tonality, body language). If you don't, then you have 2 variables: what's coming out of your mouth, as well as the non-verbals. After you have the non-verbals down so you use them like that all the time, then you can switch to natural-conversational with ease.

[Keysersoze]

Mar 12, 2009 13:34:07 GMT -5 sparkogre said:

I agree with the "integrate game into everything" part, but what do you mean by pre-gaming? Do you actually mean play energetic music everytime before you go out? Because I think that if you need music just to go out and talk to people, you really need to do something about it.

no I meant like socialising with people beforehand to get into a really social mood... I've been integrating game into everything so that I'm always that great guy I am when I'm "in state" and by always gaming and I've found that even when I haven't planned to game and have, my success has really began to increase because it's so much easier to access that part of me...

[sparkogre]

^Oh, then yeah definitely