Paetar
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Post by Paetar on Mar 15, 2009 16:10:44 GMT -5
I have a situation you guys can help me with. I need your opinion on this:
I am a good talker. I love telling stories, jokes, talking... As Style would put it, I like the sound of my own voice. I like making people interested in me, and I love making them laugh and generally have good time. So I talk a lot. Really, I'm not the quiet type. And people (usually) listen. I'm smart, so it's usually something interesting and/or funny. I like it and other people (usually) like it too.
However, then I read posts saying "don't talk too much" "it looks like you're qualifying yourself" "makes you a dancing monkey" etc. It's not really a purpose of my talking, however it can be misinterpreted.
So my question is this: Do you think that I should talk less, to look like a guy who never qualifies himself and holds himself in highest regards. Or should I just lay low, talk as much as I want to and have good time? I know that there are some mPUAs of both types.
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Post by Profile on Mar 15, 2009 16:30:23 GMT -5
i think Mark Redman says in Conquer your Campus when asked if MM works "yeah it does, for mystery" so we can't really tell you what definately will and will not work for you. If you are worried that you are talking too much cut back on it, but if people enjoy it and flock to you it can raise your social value. Try and avoid being a storyteller for only one or two people. If you can hold a group go for it.
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kickstart
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Post by kickstart on Mar 15, 2009 17:13:06 GMT -5
Profiles right you should try both though and see what works best for you. If you do find talkin alot is a)better and/or b)what you prefer then you could try linking NLP stuff into stories just easy things like anchoring emotions and then you could use those anchored emotions to keep a girl in an emotion of your choice depending on the anchor you place. See how that works for you and tell me what results you get. KickStart
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Post by Alek on Mar 15, 2009 22:01:15 GMT -5
Keep on talkin man. It is GREAT don't compromise that. The only way talking is bad, is if you can make your point in less words. Always make it in less words. But don't purposely make yourself talk less. As long as it isn't annoying, and comes off needy, keep on talkin. Hold the frame that you are the alpha, and you do what you want
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optimus
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Post by optimus on Mar 16, 2009 22:29:09 GMT -5
Being interesting and funny is great, and there's nothing wrong with talking. Just remember - you're talking WITH a girl, not TO a girl.
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Post by OHM on Mar 23, 2009 16:13:16 GMT -5
You should be able to judge when you're talking too much or not enough. When people start getting bored, either wind down the convo or switch to something else. Just like you don't want ot stay in one phase too long, you don't want to stay in one conversation for too long.
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Post by Grape on Mar 23, 2009 19:49:53 GMT -5
dont give a shit about that issue, just makes things complicated like it is for you right now. focus on having fun and being fun. that way it wont matter how much or little you talk, you're still hooking them with your good energy.
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Post by jrod23 on Mar 23, 2009 23:43:08 GMT -5
Keep talking if it makes you and people around you happy.
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enigma
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Post by enigma on Mar 27, 2009 0:03:35 GMT -5
"If you talk too much my head will explode"
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Post by sparkogre on Mar 31, 2009 16:27:33 GMT -5
However, then I read posts saying "don't talk too much" "it looks like you're qualifying yourself" "makes you a dancing monkey" etc. It's not really a purpose of my talking, however it can be misinterpreted.
Dancing monkey is where you're being a try-hard entertainer. You probably have a good idea of what other people think of you. If they think you're annoying and try-hard and reaction-seeking, then you're a dancing monkey. If they don't, then your great.
So my question is this: Do you think that I should talk less, to look like a guy who never qualifies himself and holds himself in highest regards. Or should I just lay low, talk as much as I want to and have good time? I know that there are some mPUAs of both types.
I don't know you, but unless you're one of those people that is annoyingly talkative and never STFUs, then you're fine. Most people have the calibration to realize when somebody wants to stop talking, and I'll assume you do too. It's not a fucking high-level skill; it's just common sense if they start acting disinterested.
You have a misconception here about qualifying by talking; you're not talking to try and make everybody go "WOOOEEEEEEE that kids COOL!" You're talking because you are more interested in what you're saying than what their response is. It's the same thing with being funny; if somebody tries to be funny, laughing at his own jokes and nervously looking around for approval, he's trying to get something (a reaction). On the other hand, if you actually watch the funny people, you'll notice that they'll just say something as it comes to them because they're laughing INSIDE, and they just happen to share it with you.
Err on the side of talking too much.
Let's do a thought experiment. Take, as one example, that James Bond type guy. Who's really calm and collected, and always the serious badass. Then let's take the funny talkative guy. Assume there's no value differential (I feel like a tool saying that) between them. Who would you like better?
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Post by OHM on Mar 31, 2009 18:08:44 GMT -5
So the other guy is just a funny talkative super spy? I would pick him!
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Paetar
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Post by Paetar on Apr 10, 2009 12:25:16 GMT -5
I think that this is the crucial point. When I'm talking it's because I'm saying something that's interesting or funny to me and I want to share it with others, so they would enjoy it too... and usually they do. Yes, I know when to shut up.
Okey, thanks a lot guys! Actually I'm learning talking slowly, and AUTOMATICALLY I'm getting a deeper voice. It's cool and "hypnotizing." AND it serves me better, actually gives me more confidence because I have less to say.
I know this sounds like a paradox.
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Post by Jana on Apr 14, 2009 3:53:09 GMT -5
Talking too much isn't terrible, but it can be annoying if you won't let the girl talk either. And talking to little just is just frustrating; how can a girl talk with someone who's not talking back?
Just be yourself. If you try to think too hard on what you should do, then you won't be acting like yourself and, sooner or later, a girl's gonna catch up on that. If you talk too much, then talk. It's not a bad thing, and you will find a girl that'll accept and maybe love that side of you.
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Post by Keysersoze on Apr 14, 2009 7:06:12 GMT -5
it's all about calibration...
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Post by hotdemon on Apr 14, 2009 9:25:46 GMT -5
You need to read juggler's book..he says not to talk to much to your target because then it seems like your entertaining her.your not suppose to entertain her.you should always trade.for example if she tells you tell her a joke...you might tell her to tell a joke first.She should work hand too.
And Talking a lot might help you in a social gathering as you will be the life of a party which is DHV.
you might also follow the 90 % to 10 % rule..that is when you open u a girl do most of the talking.After you attracted her then Let her do the talking maybe let her do 65%.then when you reach the comfort stage quite being funny..well it works for me.hope i could help
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