Post by twitchy on May 5, 2009 15:22:24 GMT -5
I understand that this is structureless, and rather in the form of whatever came to mind as I was writing this. Despite this, I truely hope that some of these points will hit home to a few of you, and that those who are above and beyond me will aid me in my quest for mastery.
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My game.
I tend to follow Mystery's M3 model, but I have adapted it for High school, as some elements will tend to make you look like a dick. This was probably my main sticking point, and I advise anyone who is starting out to take this on board. Negs are not to be used, unless the girl is doing something 'bratty', or trying to walk all over you. However, in my case this is rare, as girls in high school have tended to be too insecure. Yet, an example case:
HB: "So, are you going to buy me a drink?"
PUA: "Is that your best pickup line?"
These statements reframe the bad behaviour.
However, watch out, don't punish without observing any such behaviour.
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Attract, Build Comfort, Seduce
These are the three main sections to the M3 model. Keep the game in mind before approach, and fill your mind with a few routines. However don't concentrate on the system too much, only remind yourself if the conversation you are in has no purpose. For example.
PUA: "So how are you?"
HB: yadayada
PUA: "Great, did you have a good weekend?"
HB: yadayada
PUA: Questions continue....
This conversation is a kind of verbal crutch. By asking questions, a person discovers that a conversation can ensue, and they rationalise this to lead to attraction since they are a 'good listener'.
This does not work. By continually asking questions not only do you express too much interest, but you also bore the target. Instead, try:
PUA: "argh, suchansuchateacher is such a bore"
or PUA: "I'm bored, teach me something"
HB: "like what?"
PUA: routine, for example index/ring finger length routine - chicks love this.
or PUA: "Hey, your perfume is really distracting me you know"
or PUA: In crowded corridor, as someone brushes past you - "Did you just touch my ass"
or PUA: Other Situational Opener, whatever comes to your mind that directly involve her.
After this, you have to really practice and develop your own conversational style. However, a few small things to remember:
1) Make statements, don't say questions. For example, if someone says they work for a law firm, and collect debts, rather than asking a teasing question, such as if they have a couple of muscle men to back them up, say, "I bet you have a couple of muscle men that follow you round for backup - thats so you".
2) Eye Contact, Eye Contact, Eye Contact. If they're looking at you, hold it, have a strong gaze that does not waver. After they look away, which they will do, look away also, so you don't start to appear creepy, but check back periodically to see if they have rejoined the gaze.
With eyecontact, you should actually be able to feel a change in emotional state after continuing it for approx 20 secs uninterrupted, especially if no actual talking is going on. Triangle gazing may also be appropriate but it depends on the situation.
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In conversation, it can often get stale, whatever you do. For this scenario, you must have some routines that you can use to re-energise the conversation. Personally, mine are:
1) Handreading
This one is great, but it depends on context, if you're controlling a large set of people then this isn't really appropriate. However, if you do it, and well, on a few people, word will often spread and others will ask you spontaneously eventually. I would read:
www.seductionbase.com/seduction/cat/In_the_Middle/Tactics/692.html
For more information.
2) Index/ring finger length
Another bit of chick crack. See:
steviepua.com/journal/?p=49
3) "I'm quite confused at the moment, you're either a total weirdo, or one of the coolest people I've ever met"
4) 3 Animals Routine
I can't find a link at the moment, but if you want to know just ask, its in my organic database.
5) Interesting stories that have actually happened to you.
Everyone has interesting stories, tell some of your own, they're really easy to remember
6) Little Sister Routine
Once again, perhaps I will add this later, or you with your computing skills will find this for yourself
7) Lying game
8) Cube
9) "You're so cute. You're like my own personal attack kitten, like a furry little fiesty cat with a bit collar on. You can protect me, Pounce, can you pounce? I feel so safe with my own little attack kitten around. I'll even get you your own personal dinner bowl and attack kitten food."
10) "I'm very curious about you, just curious though, don't expect anything"
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Smile at everyone you pass in the hallways, and greet them by name if you know them. Skip people out sporadically, it makes them feel left out.
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Don't worry too much at being alpha, it can actually make you lower value. Just be the one with something interesting to always say, and who makes people around you feel good. However, don't be a pushover, if someone tries to AMOG you, use a canned response to deflate them. For example:
Say you are speaking to someone, and another guy takes target away. Bust her balls for being rude.
Say someone tries to make you look stupid, tell them that you wished you were as cool as them, and that when you grow up you want to be just like them. Tone of voice is key. If they respond, you can follow this frame of you sarcastically looking up to them. Calibrate.
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Number close:
"you're surprisingly cool, we should hang out"
"That conversation was actually really fun, we should totally continue it sometime"
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Befriend Everyone, don't be the guy trying to look cool, be the social guy, who people want to be around.
---
Be funny. If you're not naturally funny work on it, take David Ds cocky comedy audio course, or other such comedy improving media.
---
Avoid fixating with one girl, this is often a game of numbers, game everyone. If something clear is wrong, stop gaming, and focus on being friends.
---
I hope you've all not being too bored with me. Please constructively criticise.
----------
My game.
I tend to follow Mystery's M3 model, but I have adapted it for High school, as some elements will tend to make you look like a dick. This was probably my main sticking point, and I advise anyone who is starting out to take this on board. Negs are not to be used, unless the girl is doing something 'bratty', or trying to walk all over you. However, in my case this is rare, as girls in high school have tended to be too insecure. Yet, an example case:
HB: "So, are you going to buy me a drink?"
PUA: "Is that your best pickup line?"
These statements reframe the bad behaviour.
However, watch out, don't punish without observing any such behaviour.
----
Attract, Build Comfort, Seduce
These are the three main sections to the M3 model. Keep the game in mind before approach, and fill your mind with a few routines. However don't concentrate on the system too much, only remind yourself if the conversation you are in has no purpose. For example.
PUA: "So how are you?"
HB: yadayada
PUA: "Great, did you have a good weekend?"
HB: yadayada
PUA: Questions continue....
This conversation is a kind of verbal crutch. By asking questions, a person discovers that a conversation can ensue, and they rationalise this to lead to attraction since they are a 'good listener'.
This does not work. By continually asking questions not only do you express too much interest, but you also bore the target. Instead, try:
PUA: "argh, suchansuchateacher is such a bore"
or PUA: "I'm bored, teach me something"
HB: "like what?"
PUA: routine, for example index/ring finger length routine - chicks love this.
or PUA: "Hey, your perfume is really distracting me you know"
or PUA: In crowded corridor, as someone brushes past you - "Did you just touch my ass"
or PUA: Other Situational Opener, whatever comes to your mind that directly involve her.
After this, you have to really practice and develop your own conversational style. However, a few small things to remember:
1) Make statements, don't say questions. For example, if someone says they work for a law firm, and collect debts, rather than asking a teasing question, such as if they have a couple of muscle men to back them up, say, "I bet you have a couple of muscle men that follow you round for backup - thats so you".
2) Eye Contact, Eye Contact, Eye Contact. If they're looking at you, hold it, have a strong gaze that does not waver. After they look away, which they will do, look away also, so you don't start to appear creepy, but check back periodically to see if they have rejoined the gaze.
With eyecontact, you should actually be able to feel a change in emotional state after continuing it for approx 20 secs uninterrupted, especially if no actual talking is going on. Triangle gazing may also be appropriate but it depends on the situation.
---
In conversation, it can often get stale, whatever you do. For this scenario, you must have some routines that you can use to re-energise the conversation. Personally, mine are:
1) Handreading
This one is great, but it depends on context, if you're controlling a large set of people then this isn't really appropriate. However, if you do it, and well, on a few people, word will often spread and others will ask you spontaneously eventually. I would read:
www.seductionbase.com/seduction/cat/In_the_Middle/Tactics/692.html
For more information.
2) Index/ring finger length
Another bit of chick crack. See:
steviepua.com/journal/?p=49
3) "I'm quite confused at the moment, you're either a total weirdo, or one of the coolest people I've ever met"
4) 3 Animals Routine
I can't find a link at the moment, but if you want to know just ask, its in my organic database.
5) Interesting stories that have actually happened to you.
Everyone has interesting stories, tell some of your own, they're really easy to remember
6) Little Sister Routine
Once again, perhaps I will add this later, or you with your computing skills will find this for yourself
7) Lying game
8) Cube
9) "You're so cute. You're like my own personal attack kitten, like a furry little fiesty cat with a bit collar on. You can protect me, Pounce, can you pounce? I feel so safe with my own little attack kitten around. I'll even get you your own personal dinner bowl and attack kitten food."
10) "I'm very curious about you, just curious though, don't expect anything"
---
Smile at everyone you pass in the hallways, and greet them by name if you know them. Skip people out sporadically, it makes them feel left out.
---
Don't worry too much at being alpha, it can actually make you lower value. Just be the one with something interesting to always say, and who makes people around you feel good. However, don't be a pushover, if someone tries to AMOG you, use a canned response to deflate them. For example:
Say you are speaking to someone, and another guy takes target away. Bust her balls for being rude.
Say someone tries to make you look stupid, tell them that you wished you were as cool as them, and that when you grow up you want to be just like them. Tone of voice is key. If they respond, you can follow this frame of you sarcastically looking up to them. Calibrate.
---
Number close:
"you're surprisingly cool, we should hang out"
"That conversation was actually really fun, we should totally continue it sometime"
---
Befriend Everyone, don't be the guy trying to look cool, be the social guy, who people want to be around.
---
Be funny. If you're not naturally funny work on it, take David Ds cocky comedy audio course, or other such comedy improving media.
---
Avoid fixating with one girl, this is often a game of numbers, game everyone. If something clear is wrong, stop gaming, and focus on being friends.
---
I hope you've all not being too bored with me. Please constructively criticise.
