I feel so fucking worthless right now...

[sparkogre]

Basically, first semester I was pretty awkward in classes hours 1, 2 and 7. So I had like no friends in those classes. But I was pretty cool in 4, 5 and 6. But even when I was like totally alpha and talking to all the girls, I still did not get A SINGLE phone number, and I NEVER hung out with anybody except for my old friends from other schools.

Over winter break I read up on shit tons of pick up material and I luckily changed a lot. I'm not awkward in any classes (I changed all my classes, so nobody thinks that I was awkward). But I still FUCKING HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY PHONE NUMBERS or anything. This is really a-fucking-noying. Seriously, I need desperate help. I am like the coolest guy in all my classes (and that's not just compared to tools) but I don't hang out with ANYBODY from my school, and I've been going here the past 3 years. I'll be a senior NEXT year.

Now, I wholly admit, I didn't ask too many people (like 1) for their phone numbers. But seriously, how do normal people do this? How the fuck are you supposed to ask for numbers and shit early on? I always feel that if you wait too long you kind of get shafted into the "school-friend" category, but I never really got when you're supposed to get people's numbers.


Another thing that has frustrated the FUCK out of me, is over long breaks when I have nobody to hang out with, I just like completely lose my social skills. So, like, at the beginning of school right after summer, I'm totally awkward. End of the year I'm legitimately cool. And then I lose it. So this summer, I'm taking summer classes, I'm getting a job where I can expect to be with people a lot, and I'm going to go do cold approaches.

Another odd thing, is that I somehow, have a pretty alpha personality when I'm comfortable, even when I was a total tool. It's just that nobody could ever tell through the paint of awkwardness.

[SenorBubbz]

Once they do something that you think is pretty cool, wait a few minutes and say "Dude. you're awesome man, we're totally gonna hang out afterschool soon. Gimme your number bro. No homo *sly, slightly homo smile*" That should work on girls too lmfao.

[$wagg]

Just ask them man, the worst they can do is say no, and even then you can just walk away and have fun without them.

Trust me. Next time you want someone's number, regardless of their sex, I want you to tell yourself in the head "FUCK YOU FEAR OF REJECTION", then I want you to go up to the person and simply say "hey whats your number".

It's amazing how well simple things work.

Also, I know how you feel about the whole not hanging out with anyone thing, but you have to realize that your life is in your hands, and if you don't make the effort yourself (Making the calls to various ppl and such), then you'll just waste your life away because no one will do it for you.

[sharkoffs]

I think you need some....

[MarthXII]

Do you Know the Concept of closing?
It works the Same in everything.
Ive closed countless guys and girls in public or school.

I know that classes you see a person for what they really are since they cant act serious forever and you see them everyday. You are the same, but dont be held back by feeling akward.
Look into having fun and having a good time, I know that you can be considered weird in class by answering questions or raising hands or basically anything, I know this the most since I go to a school wherr you dont pick classes and you have the same Group every school hour of every week.

Try having fun, and Remember 4th grade? You were just bullshitting.
If you want Numbers, Do as bubbz says BUT!, Talk to the people only close to you in class.
If you want to look boss and Have people come to you all the time, Bring your iPod or some music player and Just sit durring reccess or free time Just listening and staring off to the blue, I generally do that and people come to me, but thats because Im in deep thought Lol, I only noticed it untill it happend.

But you get my drift.

As I said in the begging Closing, Just close like you would for a friend, Ask if they have an AIM or msn, Youll know if they're close to you or not depending on the response.
Say for example:

You - "Hey!"
schoolmate- "Sup"
You - "Hey man, do you have an AIM or Msn?"

-Either 2 things can happen, Either the yes/no Response ( "Yeah." or "no" and dosent say anything else, This is when they dont Really know you that much and you wanna talk to these ppl more.
Now, If you get the Enthusiastic yeah/no ( if they say yeah and pass it thats when you know your in. If they say no but Enthusiastically or they ask if you have one that means youre in too )

So try it.
Its cool and fun and helps you build more relationship by talking online as a feeling that you 2 know eachother so Much you talk all day (?) or at least outside of school =]

Also ( I do this to build rapport alot LOL )
If you get a phone number, call them while on the toilet and say "Hey man, I was just thinking about you while on the Toilet and I wanted to let you know that" =]

Youll always get the WTF's or the HAHAHAHHA's
And this Helps in the long run as a Lasting impression you are cool/funny
Just like First impressions while gaming girls, You want to be the center of their thoughts, Sure you can approach but as far as that goes, youll be another one in a million she considers friends, You gotta be one of that special group ( for most girls its her special Group in mind that she thinks about when wanting to go out )

So yeah, Any combination of that would Do.

TRY IT.
Dont say "i know" and never do it.
You once told me that If you never do it on the first day itll be just another "I dont feel Like it" Everytime. You can change that.

As I say most of the time to some of my students ( Yeah Im teaching basic/Nlp game and my friend Agus, Teaches natural game while my best friend Gabe teaches Advanced Mystery Game ) "Dont be a Bench warmer, Youll always be on the sidelines if you dont get out there and play. =D"

"Never Fear anything and take almost everything you can as positive"

~`- BanYa

[SenorBubbz]

Lol, I'm gonna do the toilet bit with people.
That's genius Banya =]

[Alek]

dude closing is easy, esp. on dudes. Just be like hey dude, whats ur number?

guys wont say no ever, unless they hate u

[Chris]

i didn't bother to read any replies so maybe its already been
said... but closing, ESPECIALLY number closing... is literally
NOTHING. you are going to realize that after you close a few, its
unbelievably easy. You will never get rejected if you go to the
same school as them as long as you have a semi cool vibe.
grab the things you want dude.

[anarchy]

I agree with chris if you are the "coolest" guy in your classes, why would girls say no? guys never say no lol, so dont even worrie about them. True story a while earlier this year My natural buddy would aim this chick alot from my school, He asked her later on in the convo for her number, And she said no. He just shrugged it off, Now let me tell you this guy is mad cool Later on when we chilled in front of me she was like omg your so fun let me get your number, *I love this guy for this* His response sorry but I dont think your cool enough to get my number and just walked away so alpha.

[darkpwns]

um, girls should give out their numbers like nothing a simple "You're cool as fuck, put your number in my phone." works just fine. If you were really the coolest dude in your class though, you wouldn't have to ask for numbers...you'd just get them.

[MarthXII]

May 30, 2009 19:45:35 GMT -5 darkpwns said:

um, girls should give out their numbers like nothing a simple "You're cool as fuck, put your number in my phone." works just fine. If you were really the coolest dude in your class though, you wouldn't have to ask for numbers...you'd just get them.

Who are you? lol
Where did you come from?
Why do you know so Little about game?
Why do you have a picture from a kids show? lol

[Zomga48]

May 31, 2009 19:39:17 GMT -5 MarthXII said:

May 30, 2009 19:45:35 GMT -5 darkpwns said:

um, girls should give out their numbers like nothing a simple "You're cool as fuck, put your number in my phone." works just fine. If you were really the coolest dude in your class though, you wouldn't have to ask for numbers...you'd just get them.

Who are you? lol
Where did you come from?
Why do you know so Little about game?
Why do you have a picture from a kids show? lol

Unless you're joking, darkpwns is sorta new to this forum, but he's a friggin genius at highschool game.

Edit: He joined forum before you XD

[Chris]

yeah i don't see a problem with darkpwns suggestion here.
why do you assume he knows so little based off one sentence.

[darkpwns]

May 31, 2009 19:39:17 GMT -5 MarthXII said:

May 30, 2009 19:45:35 GMT -5 darkpwns said:

um, girls should give out their numbers like nothing a simple "You're cool as fuck, put your number in my phone." works just fine. If you were really the coolest dude in your class though, you wouldn't have to ask for numbers...you'd just get them.

Who are you? lol
Where did you come from?
Why do you know so Little about game?
Why do you have a picture from a kids show? lol

Dude, I honestly have no idea what your issue is. Im not a tactician nor do I pretend to know a bunch of crap about game...in fact Im trying to forget a lot of it because thinking about it is holding me back. I've been here longer than you, so the question is where did YOU come from. Im darkpwns, who are you?

[RedDog]

Jun 1, 2009 19:42:14 GMT -5 darkpwns said:

May 31, 2009 19:39:17 GMT -5 MarthXII said:

Who are you? lol
Where did you come from?
Why do you know so Little about game?
Why do you have a picture from a kids show? lol

Dude, I honestly have no idea what your issue is. Im not a tactician nor do I pretend to know a bunch of crap about game...in fact Im trying to forget a lot of it because thinking about it is holding me back. I've been here longer than you, so the question is where did YOU come from. Im darkpwns, who are you?

[amog] Banya was pms'ing[/amog]