Post by Mandrake on Jun 21, 2009 12:47:41 GMT -5
When I get back from summer camp, I'm gonna start using routines again. Not as much as I did when I started out, but I want to have at least an hour of little attraction spikes completely internalized. (I can mix up which ones I use if I have a whole hoursworth to choose from...a greater selection always spices things up...hence the Game, for a greater selection of women to spice up your life).
I've decided that all of the gurus whose game is at the level where I want to be all use a lot of canned stuff, then just do the natural vibing once they've got enough attraction.
Of the gurus that are successful (in my terms of success, there's no point in making anyone role models unless they're the best of the best (the "mPUA's" and "Gurus"):
"A lot of canned" = Style, Psych, Sinn, and BRAD FUCKIN P
"Complete natural, no canned" = Adam Lyons
Now I've been trying to go "all natural" and still have the huge success like I was having when I was canned, but here's today's epiphany for the journal.
YOU CAN STILL BE A NATURAL PUA EVEN IF YOU USE SCRIPTED MATERIAL
We use canned to build attraction, and to get us in state so that we CAN naturally vibe and BE naturals. Canned material is, in a way, "our game", and it's what we have to fall back on when we are in bad states. Because we ARE still in HS, our game will be played very differently than the gurus. Their job is to go out and party and get girls, it's what they do. They have plenty of time dedicated towards it and they are constantly dressed well and ready to game any girl who they see who meets their standards. In highschool, we don't have much time for game other than our weekends, which are already busy. We are not always dressed well, because our wardrobes are not completely designed for getting girls turned on, most of our outfits are for looking normal, and we only peacock when we go out. Some of us even wear hideous looking uniforms so we can't game on the walk home from school.
THIS MEANS we will not be "in state" nearly as often as the gurus. Even though we're MUCH younger than them, we have a lot more to deal with and we will be in an anti-social mood far more often.
So the question is, how do you get out of a bad state and into a good one?
SUCCESS
You can say otherwise, and you can say that if you look to yourself and feel confident that you are a sexy man who's good with women, then you will have confidence and be in state. This is true in a sense, but there is NO substitute for success. A lot of the times, even when I feel good, I only start gaming really well once I've gotten IOI's from a few hot girls or I have a lot of girls trying to kino me or open me. Once I get that, then everything becomes clear and I'm completely in the moment. I don't think about which clever line to say next, it just happens.
But only with success.
So. What do we do to get success? WE FALL BACK ON THE ATTRACTION ROUTINES WE"VE ALREADY INTERNALIZED.
The gurus in their journals always explain that they are the same way. Though they are generally in a better state than us most of the time, when they approach, they used canned stuff and attraction routines whenever they feel like throwing them in near the beginning. After a few sets that have gone well, they're in state (AND they're already dressed sexy), and no matter what they say they can get laid, as long as they don't fuck it up, which they won't because they're emitting a cool, fun, "in state" energy.
This is what I should be doing, not this all natural, not a single canned line business. The reason natural game has become so prevalent is because people think it is unsustainable as a method of game, now that the community is becoming more and more mainstream. In HS, natural game is advocated even FURTHER, because you run the risk of reusing material on the same people, considering we see the same people at the majority of the HS parties we go to. Also, there is a stigma attached to starting a relationship with a staged meeting.
HERE's what I'm saying: you don't need to be 100% just you thinking of your own lines. You can have some material in the back of your head, ready to bust out when you need to, as long as you don't become a social robot and just keep memorizing routines and spitting them out while losing your identity in the process.
The only reason that Adam Lyons is able to have such incredible success while not using a single canned line is that he has intentionally created a lifestyle in which he is constantly surrounded by beautiful women. Wherever he is, he has hot girls with him, even at his seminars. The other "natural" PUAs at PUATraining are full of shit (I have Gambler in mind when I say this). In the Home Study System to "Be a Natural PUA" there's a bunch of things where he just tells you canned lines to respond with! This guy isn't an mPUA just because he's a guru. Adam Lyons is though, and it's because he has made a lifestyle with constant preselection getting him all the attraction he needs and more. From there, everything is easy and when he makes mistakes, he has enough social proofing to be able to recover swiftly.
We can't create this type of lifestyle while we have highschool and everything else in our lives to deal with. There's only one real option here, and you can re-read that section if you didn't feel what I was saying.
You are allowed to use material as much as you want, just know that it's unhealthful to your game to RELY upon it. You want to gain INDEPENDENCE through being able to use some canned material and generate attraction in a wider variety of women, and break your dependence on natural game, which only works WELL when you are in state and have already gotten a bit preselection. You do NOT want to create a DEPENDENCE on routines, and turn yourself into a social robot.
IN-dependence, not DE-pendence
This is how to get the most women. You have attraction routines to start the relationship with a spark and then you have a basic structure for comfort and rapport building, which is mainly just you vibing and feeling natural now that you've met some success. Then you have the sex, and if you do that right, you should have her liking you even if you DO become a bit boring once you stop using routines. Not to suggest that you should ever become boring haha
When I get back from summer camp (leave in a few days, back at the end of summer), this is the direction I'll be heading in, and I know that some of you will also be moving in the same direction, or already are in that direction. Some will think that I'm going back a step, seeing as I had natural game down and was getting moderate success (moderate in comparison with the success when I'm at the level where I plan to be at within the next couple years) with it, but that's not the point of this article. I'm moving up a step BECAUSE I'm going down a step. I've already seen natural game and explored it, and now I know that it's not for me, because I want to live a lifestyle like Style or Brad P, not like AFC Adam, even though AFC Adam probably has the happiest and most fulfilling life of the three.
~Mandrake
I've decided that all of the gurus whose game is at the level where I want to be all use a lot of canned stuff, then just do the natural vibing once they've got enough attraction.
Of the gurus that are successful (in my terms of success, there's no point in making anyone role models unless they're the best of the best (the "mPUA's" and "Gurus"):
"A lot of canned" = Style, Psych, Sinn, and BRAD FUCKIN P
"Complete natural, no canned" = Adam Lyons
Now I've been trying to go "all natural" and still have the huge success like I was having when I was canned, but here's today's epiphany for the journal.
YOU CAN STILL BE A NATURAL PUA EVEN IF YOU USE SCRIPTED MATERIAL
We use canned to build attraction, and to get us in state so that we CAN naturally vibe and BE naturals. Canned material is, in a way, "our game", and it's what we have to fall back on when we are in bad states. Because we ARE still in HS, our game will be played very differently than the gurus. Their job is to go out and party and get girls, it's what they do. They have plenty of time dedicated towards it and they are constantly dressed well and ready to game any girl who they see who meets their standards. In highschool, we don't have much time for game other than our weekends, which are already busy. We are not always dressed well, because our wardrobes are not completely designed for getting girls turned on, most of our outfits are for looking normal, and we only peacock when we go out. Some of us even wear hideous looking uniforms so we can't game on the walk home from school.
THIS MEANS we will not be "in state" nearly as often as the gurus. Even though we're MUCH younger than them, we have a lot more to deal with and we will be in an anti-social mood far more often.
So the question is, how do you get out of a bad state and into a good one?
SUCCESS
You can say otherwise, and you can say that if you look to yourself and feel confident that you are a sexy man who's good with women, then you will have confidence and be in state. This is true in a sense, but there is NO substitute for success. A lot of the times, even when I feel good, I only start gaming really well once I've gotten IOI's from a few hot girls or I have a lot of girls trying to kino me or open me. Once I get that, then everything becomes clear and I'm completely in the moment. I don't think about which clever line to say next, it just happens.
But only with success.
So. What do we do to get success? WE FALL BACK ON THE ATTRACTION ROUTINES WE"VE ALREADY INTERNALIZED.
The gurus in their journals always explain that they are the same way. Though they are generally in a better state than us most of the time, when they approach, they used canned stuff and attraction routines whenever they feel like throwing them in near the beginning. After a few sets that have gone well, they're in state (AND they're already dressed sexy), and no matter what they say they can get laid, as long as they don't fuck it up, which they won't because they're emitting a cool, fun, "in state" energy.
This is what I should be doing, not this all natural, not a single canned line business. The reason natural game has become so prevalent is because people think it is unsustainable as a method of game, now that the community is becoming more and more mainstream. In HS, natural game is advocated even FURTHER, because you run the risk of reusing material on the same people, considering we see the same people at the majority of the HS parties we go to. Also, there is a stigma attached to starting a relationship with a staged meeting.
HERE's what I'm saying: you don't need to be 100% just you thinking of your own lines. You can have some material in the back of your head, ready to bust out when you need to, as long as you don't become a social robot and just keep memorizing routines and spitting them out while losing your identity in the process.
The only reason that Adam Lyons is able to have such incredible success while not using a single canned line is that he has intentionally created a lifestyle in which he is constantly surrounded by beautiful women. Wherever he is, he has hot girls with him, even at his seminars. The other "natural" PUAs at PUATraining are full of shit (I have Gambler in mind when I say this). In the Home Study System to "Be a Natural PUA" there's a bunch of things where he just tells you canned lines to respond with! This guy isn't an mPUA just because he's a guru. Adam Lyons is though, and it's because he has made a lifestyle with constant preselection getting him all the attraction he needs and more. From there, everything is easy and when he makes mistakes, he has enough social proofing to be able to recover swiftly.
We can't create this type of lifestyle while we have highschool and everything else in our lives to deal with. There's only one real option here, and you can re-read that section if you didn't feel what I was saying.
You are allowed to use material as much as you want, just know that it's unhealthful to your game to RELY upon it. You want to gain INDEPENDENCE through being able to use some canned material and generate attraction in a wider variety of women, and break your dependence on natural game, which only works WELL when you are in state and have already gotten a bit preselection. You do NOT want to create a DEPENDENCE on routines, and turn yourself into a social robot.
IN-dependence, not DE-pendence
This is how to get the most women. You have attraction routines to start the relationship with a spark and then you have a basic structure for comfort and rapport building, which is mainly just you vibing and feeling natural now that you've met some success. Then you have the sex, and if you do that right, you should have her liking you even if you DO become a bit boring once you stop using routines. Not to suggest that you should ever become boring haha
When I get back from summer camp (leave in a few days, back at the end of summer), this is the direction I'll be heading in, and I know that some of you will also be moving in the same direction, or already are in that direction. Some will think that I'm going back a step, seeing as I had natural game down and was getting moderate success (moderate in comparison with the success when I'm at the level where I plan to be at within the next couple years) with it, but that's not the point of this article. I'm moving up a step BECAUSE I'm going down a step. I've already seen natural game and explored it, and now I know that it's not for me, because I want to live a lifestyle like Style or Brad P, not like AFC Adam, even though AFC Adam probably has the happiest and most fulfilling life of the three.
~Mandrake
