Post by Luc on Oct 9, 2008 21:27:02 GMT -5
Ok, so the The Art of Seduction is a book by Robert Greene that i highly recommend. He's an awesome writer and he knows his shit. The first part of the book is about different seducers personalities and I'm gonna try to summarize the first one retaining to pickup, it's called "The Rake."
Keys to character:
So the name Rake comes from theology. It's from the word "rake-hell", literally a person in hell who rakes the coals. This is very significant because the rake (in seduction) is a person who represents the classic seducer. He is the person that gets all of the wifes to cheat on their husbands, and he is the sense of danger that fills a normally boring life. The rake has a reputation that should make things harder for him. That reputation being one of conquering countless women and this being only for pleasure. The rake never has any intent to commitment, marriage, or even honesty. Mostly a rake will be in a relationship for a short while, and usually a women knows this yet he can still bring women to their knees (not in a dirty sense......well...... maybe...).
It seems odd that a person who carries such a bad reputation can have such a seductive effect on women. Though women feel that they need safety, they are attracted to the rake because of the womens desire for danger. The rake is mainly affective on women who are in a boring relationship, a relationship that she may have entered for romance or adventure, yet one that has led to isolation, or quite possibly just to the boring "norm'' of every day life. It is an endless female fantasy for a women to meet a man that is not solely devoted to himself, but also gives himself fully, even if it is only a short while. As Robert Greene puts it, "...a women may succumb to the Rake through her yearning to be free of the constraints of virtue and decency."
For a rake, resistance is never a worry. Weather it be a physical barrier or a husband, resistance only sparks his desire. He loves a challenge and often begs women to resist him to make things more fun.
Robert Greene explains this with an explanation of the adventurous knight Don Juan, a legend in female and male fantasy, one that could have any women that he wanted.
"Marriage for them was a form of indentured servitude [for women in the dark ages]; but Don Juan offered pleasure for its own sake, desire with no strings attached. For the time he crossed your pat, you were all he thought about. His desire for you was so powerful that he gave you no time to think or worry about the consequences. He would come in the night, give you an unforgettable moment, then vanish. He might have conquered a thousand women before you, but that only made him more interesting; better to be abandoned than undesired by such a man."
To Play the Rake:
"To play the rake, the most obvious requirement is the ability to let yourself go, to draw a women into the kind of purely sensual moment in which past and future lose meaning." Another benefit of this quality is that you are perceived as one who cannot control himself. This is a weakness that a women truly enjoys. It gives her the feeling that though you have had so many sexual conquests, she can be the one to tame you and make her own. By letting yourself go to this state of "weakness, " you make them feel like you are for them alone. This feeling can be true - but only temporarily.
Dangers:
Though being a Rake comes with many perks, the dangers are a hurt reputation as well as physical pain. Because of the rakes love for taken women, the physical pain is usually from angry boyfriends. The largest problem for a rake would be the envious people around. Many jealous men, and oftentimes women who aren't 'chosen' by the rake, go to attack a rakes reputation and possibly damage his career. There isn't much one can do to avoid such jealousy, as Robert Greene said, "for if everyone was as successful at seduction, society would simply not function."
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OK so this is my first post of many on the personalities in the book. I was planning on writing another tonight but it took WAYYY longer than expected. The next one I'm writing will be the Ideal Lover (not as corny as it sounds...) and hopefully it will be up tomorrow night.
Good Sarging!
--Luc
Keys to character:
So the name Rake comes from theology. It's from the word "rake-hell", literally a person in hell who rakes the coals. This is very significant because the rake (in seduction) is a person who represents the classic seducer. He is the person that gets all of the wifes to cheat on their husbands, and he is the sense of danger that fills a normally boring life. The rake has a reputation that should make things harder for him. That reputation being one of conquering countless women and this being only for pleasure. The rake never has any intent to commitment, marriage, or even honesty. Mostly a rake will be in a relationship for a short while, and usually a women knows this yet he can still bring women to their knees (not in a dirty sense......well...... maybe...).
It seems odd that a person who carries such a bad reputation can have such a seductive effect on women. Though women feel that they need safety, they are attracted to the rake because of the womens desire for danger. The rake is mainly affective on women who are in a boring relationship, a relationship that she may have entered for romance or adventure, yet one that has led to isolation, or quite possibly just to the boring "norm'' of every day life. It is an endless female fantasy for a women to meet a man that is not solely devoted to himself, but also gives himself fully, even if it is only a short while. As Robert Greene puts it, "...a women may succumb to the Rake through her yearning to be free of the constraints of virtue and decency."
For a rake, resistance is never a worry. Weather it be a physical barrier or a husband, resistance only sparks his desire. He loves a challenge and often begs women to resist him to make things more fun.
Robert Greene explains this with an explanation of the adventurous knight Don Juan, a legend in female and male fantasy, one that could have any women that he wanted.
"Marriage for them was a form of indentured servitude [for women in the dark ages]; but Don Juan offered pleasure for its own sake, desire with no strings attached. For the time he crossed your pat, you were all he thought about. His desire for you was so powerful that he gave you no time to think or worry about the consequences. He would come in the night, give you an unforgettable moment, then vanish. He might have conquered a thousand women before you, but that only made him more interesting; better to be abandoned than undesired by such a man."
To Play the Rake:
"To play the rake, the most obvious requirement is the ability to let yourself go, to draw a women into the kind of purely sensual moment in which past and future lose meaning." Another benefit of this quality is that you are perceived as one who cannot control himself. This is a weakness that a women truly enjoys. It gives her the feeling that though you have had so many sexual conquests, she can be the one to tame you and make her own. By letting yourself go to this state of "weakness, " you make them feel like you are for them alone. This feeling can be true - but only temporarily.
Dangers:
Though being a Rake comes with many perks, the dangers are a hurt reputation as well as physical pain. Because of the rakes love for taken women, the physical pain is usually from angry boyfriends. The largest problem for a rake would be the envious people around. Many jealous men, and oftentimes women who aren't 'chosen' by the rake, go to attack a rakes reputation and possibly damage his career. There isn't much one can do to avoid such jealousy, as Robert Greene said, "for if everyone was as successful at seduction, society would simply not function."
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OK so this is my first post of many on the personalities in the book. I was planning on writing another tonight but it took WAYYY longer than expected. The next one I'm writing will be the Ideal Lover (not as corny as it sounds...) and hopefully it will be up tomorrow night.
Good Sarging!
--Luc
