Getting the girl YOU want?

[WhiteKnight]

I wish right here was the guide with my handwritten plan for success. I really wish it was, because that would mean I had figured it out. But I haven't, I haven't been asked out since 7th grade, now I'm a senior in high school. When talking to friends I know what I tell them to do would work in terms of game.( a lil note I don't talk with lots of pua terms, I talk normally)
So now I have a question, why can't I do the stuff I tell them to do for MYSELF? Why don't I have a HOT girlfriend? So let me lay 1 story on you, some stats on you, and hopefully you can give me some advice to help me find my way. And then maybe by the end of the year this post won't have a question mark, it will be a full guide...maybe.

So it can be hard to compress a story of a personal relationship into a short paragraph. I'll try:
There is a girl, lets dub her J for the first letter in her name. She is a true hottie, a former member of the plastics, freshman year she started dating a junior...this carried through his senior year and slightly longer. Then as a junior she began dating one of his younger/former friends who was only a year older than us. Now the later couple, seems to be on hold but there is 1 problem. This guy in our 2 classes together is a big cockblocking not a true amog, but around her he sort of becomes one. I have seen her talking to several more popular guys, and I don't know how flirty she is. I have also seen her talking to her ex bfs brother, who I am friends with(really nice kid). She talks to me too, but not enough, and I don't know how to get her thinking of me sexually, and as a valid mate, someone of high value. I don't really have anything going for me, don't play sports, music, etc. No real talent, but I am pretty smart...and a decent writer. I really would love to be a comedian, but that path is far off(why? because I actually love laughter)

So that's part one, the next thing is I know even the best PUAs don't have a 100% success rate. But here are some stats kinda based on a pickup game me and my friend always wanted to play.
Ok so my idea is to base this off the same way as me applying to colleges. 30% safety schools, 40% possible, and 30% reach. The problem is I don't have classes with many hot girls, if I do it will be noted.

Safety: HAHAHA not sure if I have anything.
Possible: J-girl(hb9)(2 classes together) SarBar(hb7)(no classes this year) ER(hb7)(no classes this year, lunch but not same table/friends)
Reach: L-girl(hb9)(1 class n lunch not same t/f, has a bf) L-babe(hb9)(1 class n lunch not same t/f) L-Love(hb8(no classes, no bf, gorgeous but how do u meet a girl you don't know?)
Singer(hb7)(no classes-lunch and same situation, don't know her either) O-town(hb7)(cute girl sits at lunch table behind mine, 2 guys r there but I can't tell if either are her bf)

So those are just 8 girls I think are hot. Only a few I've had any connection/flirting with. But I only need a 1/8 success rate, and a plan of communication to get a girl in theory. Maybe 1/10 considering loyalty factor(i.e. 1/8 times its a girl with a bf who she would have to leave) I've read 90% of the high school guide...But I need a something to help me get my foot in the door.

[$wagg]

You need a dick. with some balls. That's it.

Quit excusin' your bitchassness as a "lack of a plan".

DUDE, we are talking about meeting people here. It's not fucking rocket science.
Man up man, you got this in you. Just go up to her, say hi and introduce yourself, and see where it goes.

Girls are just pretty men. Talk to them like anyone else instead of putting them on a goddam pedestal. You need to act instead of thinking. Get rid of that numbers bullshit.

They are all safety schools, you just have to fuckin apply.

[RMO]

did you just try to make PUA a mathematical forumla? unless your some fucking mega genius who understand how emotions and hormones interplay you cant. read this forum a bit, maybe dabble in natural game

[WhiteKnight]

It's like you guys don't even try to understand. Welcome to school setting, I'm actually pretty high up on the scale a senior and I hang out with all the sports players and at the same time I am friends with all the non-gay musicians, and most the skaters just not the poor druggies who for some reason...are who all the hot girls are with. Or a couple basketball kids, and the juniors that play sports...they aren't even as good as any of my senior friends yet they get girls and are able to hook up their funny kid friends with girls(kids like me). But back to what I wanted to say, how close have any of you guys ever even gotten to a hot girl. Why are there numbers? Seriously? It's so you know 9 is greater than 7 fuckin peons. Maybe you guys don't like numbers cause you spend all your time approaching 3s, my natural looks could get me anything 5 or lower really quickly. I don't even know how to reject these nasty chicks, so I just act really boring and polite. But seriously I want to know what your guys successes are, I mean a system which proves that you can take the risk of approaching a certain number of random girls you don't know because as you do it in a school you end up destroying your value. So thats the problem you need value to get girls, you need to approach and talk to a girl to get one, and if you are rejected your value drops.

[$wagg]

Don't act like we've never been to a high school either. This is HIGH SCHOOL PUA FORUM. We ALL know how and understand the social scale.

But we also acknowledge the fact that girls like attention, and meeting people. Until you understand this:

-Social value changes like fucking water
-Social value is for the most part self-imposed
-People like meeting other people

You'll always be in that same self-pitying shithole you lie in right now. If the "druggies and skaters" throw all the parties where the girls are, then just befriend them too. But you can't write off hot girls because you don't know any of the cool people.

I know what you're talking about cause I was there too.

[Andrew]

There is a big plague going around of up and coming PUAs who are trying to find formulas or take other people's "methods" in pick-up. All those methods and formulas would serve you very poorly, as they are FORMULAS. They are static, and very few account for the real life dynamics or how every girl is different. Every single situation is going to be different with every girl, thats why methods, routines, and formulas are all moot.

ESPECIALLY in High School. You want to know what one of my successees was Nobigdeal? I went from a fat middle schooler with seriously long hair, bad skin, braces, and friends who didnt even like me, to fucking the school's TV anchor and Miss America's Teen Rhode Island whose a year older than me last year. I understand high school

And I wasn't even that high on the "social ladder" then, or now. Popularity is all a myth. Like stevenadrien said, social value is all self-imposed. It is a way to excuse how assholes treat other people, or to excuse other people from becoming who they want to become. Its all excuses or explanations for what we don't understand.

I know its going to be hard because its going to go against years of social programming and even how you might be as a person, but give value to everyone. The only way be to seen as "higher value" is to see every single person as the same value, and as the value of yourself. A nine is no greater than a seven, we just think shes hotter. You need to start looking at people as people, rather than as numbers (whether its a number 1-10 or as a peg in the value board).

You seem to have a lot of potential, just need to work on how you see people, and they'll start to see you differently.

-Andrew



P.S. We're here to help. That's why this forum is here. Don't ask for help, and then turn around and lecture us. Check your pride and your ego at the door.

[Deleted]

You have a lot of work ahead of you man.

I think this guy deserves the ego destroyer a little more than Weezy did haha

[Grape]

dont be so harsh aaron.
werent we all like him at some point??

nobigdeal,
your stuck in that spot where MOST guys in high school are stuck at.
Why do you want a hot girlfriend???
"Because I want to boost my ego!"

Really.. think about it.
you dont even know the girls well enough to say "i want them as my girlfriend."
no, you just want them because of their looks.
this means that you just want to be validated by them and boost your own ego by scoring pussy.
you dont REALLY want them to be in a relationship with you.
a relationship consists of soo much more than sex. it's all about spending time with each other, caring for each other, and being loyal to each other.


do you REALLY want to commit yourself to some hot chick you dont even know well??!!
Nope. Complete bullshit.

you just want to boost your own ego, be validated, and fuck bitches.

so what do i say?
realize your TRUE goal, which is "to fuck bitches and boost my ego"
and then go about in switching your game plan to meet your goal.

having trouble being attractive? go to our Attraction section.
having trouble being confident? go to our Confidence section.
having trouble being comforting? go to our Rapport section.


Seriously man, you have pinata right in front of you. It's the blindfold that's causing your problems. Now you realize you actually do have a blindfold, take it off.

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[extra]

Just hot girls aren't all their cracked up to be maing. If you're looking for a relationship, go for personality AND looks or you'll be done with a girl after the novelty of hotness wears off. For random play though they're the best, haha

To get your foot in the door: just go for girls. Period. Like, it's your senior year of high school, there are NO consequences of what you do now. You don't even have to hide it, make friends with a girl then get all over her if you want, or talk shit to some girl with low self esteem and hook up with her, or invite a girl out to do something fun and try to get that way. You have to be independent when it comes to this, and especially in high school, a plan can be worst than not having one (besides general like, i want that girl there she's my fave).

Prepare to get shut down sometimes, it will happen. But even when you're shut down, unless it's by an ugly girl/girl with no status, as this can hurt you in the popularity game which you seem to like, it can be good publicity. Plus it gives you experience; you're an introspective seeming guy, you can examine why she wasn't receptive and adapt that for the future.

If you're too shy to go after girls like any self respecting guy at first, the easiest way to start is at parties. Get drunk/high/whatever your forte is, or don't if you don't want to, and pick up drunk/high/fucked-up-on-pure-happiness girls. I wouldn't recommend you purely doing this for a while though - you don't have too much time left in your career.

[Deleted]

Oct 28, 2009 16:08:15 GMT -5 Grape said:

dont be so harsh aaron.
werent we all like him at some point??

That wasn't harsh grape, you telling weezy he basically sucks at life was harsh

I just think it's weird that Weezy says he's too cocky and asks for advice and you guys bust his balls like none other, but this guy comes in acting like mr. bigshot and he gets no tough love?

how does that work?

[Andrew]

Were allowed to have egos xD

Wes just thinks his is a problem and wanted us to check him.

NDB obviously doesnt think its a problem, he just needs to check it at the door, ESPECIALLY if hes asking us a question and for our help

[Ant]

climb the social value ladder.....
dont focus on getting the girl, focus on being friends with everyone. treat everyone with the same value....most importantly have fun without a care in the world...the girls with come and they will realize your a prize and then you can put your skills to work