Why Online Gaming Sucks.

[nutrick]

Please note: This is my opinion, from my experience, and I will give evidence to substantiate it. If you don't agree with me, don't post unless you have your own evidence. Have a nice day

1. Bad ROI (Return on Investment)

Don't know what that means? Google it. But some recent numbers I've gotten from gaming on FB: 1 number, from 3 conversations, from contacting 10+ girls. That's less than fuckin 10%. Fuck that.

2. Doesn't help your game.

Game is spontaneous, and communication is 80% nonverbals. You won't be able to cultivate the right BL and verbal tone through typing through a godamn computer. How you sound in real life is different from how you sound online (even in texting).

3. Doesn't help your game pt 2

It DOES help you stay home and type on your little computer instead of actually going out. Woo. Fun. You already know where I'm going with this. (You must go out and be social)

Sure, I understand that some guys aren't old enough to drive or can't get to a mall or some shit. Get your parents to drive you and leave you there and pick you up later. Just get there. Be proactive and do that shit.

Do the hard work(going out and cold approaching) instead of taking the easy route and settling for less, much less. It'll pay off in the long run.

Patrick

[wespeezy]

for me, online game is the easiest part of pick up.

It may have something to do with practicing since my sophmore year but honestly its easy as fuck to me.

i can only remember 3 or 4 non number closes(idk if theres some dumb PUA term for that) out of the 15+ girls ive gamed over facebook and espin.

The one major problem you can run into is not getting in real life quick enough. or running into the problem i had which was actually being afraid to talk to them IRL like in the halls while your gaming them on the computer.

I agree with you that you need to go out and do it in real life. In away online takes more work that just actually meeting the girl in real life, but makes it alot easier if your struggling with seeing the girl enough to game her

[OHM]

I find online game to be easier as well. But really, I find that it helps your game only in that you get better with words and responding. Sure pick-up is a lot of non-verbal communication with body language and what-not, but still, it's good to know how to use words, and the better you are at that, the better overall you'll be.

And it can help build a little attraction in the very beginning if you just met them, or if you've known them for a while but never really "got to know them" it can help with comfort. But yeah, don't depend on it. You can live on just water for about 4-6 weeks, but you'll starve to death eventually.

In period, don't solely depend on anything.

You just want to avoid being the keyboard genius/jockey, seeming like your one thing online, but in person, someone totally different.

[nutrick]

I see where both of you are coming from. Well put guys.

[Alek]

Yeah man, it really helped me with words, and even outgoingness. Really gets you calibrated with words, but give it a LOT of time. Somethin to do when u sit home lol, and its beneficial

[sharkoffs]

Online gaming does suck, he's right. You shouldn't be trying to meet girls online, thats the exact opposite of the direction PUA wants you to go in.

The only value that online gaming has is that you can test routines, work on your spontaneous responses and see how it works out.

All in all online game is BS, stop giving yourself excuses to stay at home and get the fuck out of your shell ;-).

With love, Sharkoffs.

[Ari Gold]

I used to think online gaming was important. I then realized it sucks dick.
Why:

1. ALL TEXT. You cannot communicate tone, facial expression, body language, anything through text. You cannot see what she's doing/showing her tone either. It fucking sucks for that.

2. The AFK problem. She can leave the room/forget you IM'd back/do something else/fall asleep and YOU CAN'T KNOW if she did one of those things or IS IGNORING YOU. It's so annoying and it causes unnecessary anxiety.

3. It causes the internet bond problem. A lot of people can talk to me/I can talk to them very easily on FB/Myspace/AIM but not in real life. It's terrible for being a PUA, as you are basically making more approach anxiety for yourself.

[Calli]

I have found online gaming very useful. It is useful for meeting new people, I have met quite a few of my friends through txt and the net. It also gives you practise and experience with words. I have become a lot faster and wittier through IM conversations. Of course it's not as good as face to face interaction, but you can't be in the field 24/7 and online gaming is better than no gaming at all. Obviously if you use online game as an excuse to stay inside, then its going to be more harm than good, but seriously, how many people do that?

^^^ I disagree with ajaax about approach anxiety. It may be the case for him personally, but I know that I find it easier to meet someone that I know already through the internet than somebody who I don't know at all, and I would imagine that this is the case for most people

So online game is inferior to face to face socializing. Nobody ever claimed it wasn't. But the fact that real game is better doesn't mean online game is intrinsically bad.

[Ari Gold]

I'm fine with talking to anyone, usually. It's more of AA for THEM, not as much you. At least, this is the case with people I've talked to.

[Calli]

^^^

Ah, that clears things up, I have had this happen to me before, where girls I have got to know online meet me for the first time and are quite shy, but I have always found the initial awkwardness goes away pretty quick.