Symmetry Theory

[WhiteKnight]

Symmetry Theory: Lets rank people solely by looks on a scale of 1-10. So lets take two average looking people, a girl that is a 5, and a guy that is a 5. Girls we know look largely for men with skills, brains, and personality all besides looks. Men we know look for appearance first and foremost. For women lets assume an end difference of 1 when judging men, and for men an end difference of 2. So in theory two 5s would be perfect for each other on an attraction perspective, unless we account for two things?
One is difference, as I already mentioned. Two is from Mystery's new ideas, I forget his name for it but it is about evolution; naturally we all desire for our offspring to have higher value than our own so that is a why a 5 still desires a 10, and even in a 5s eyes another 5 is not a 10 as it should logically be, if it were there would be an even number of strong and weak people and only through war would the weak people be weeded out.
Obviously we know that natural selection if not all of evolution is true so the earlier statement of mine is false. The reason for this is distortion, which is a large part of symmetry theory. Basically we all think that an 8 is very attractive right? No man that goes out one night and returns to F-Close an 8 is gonna be upset.
But with symmetry theory, which I have yet to account in self-esteem and confidence, but we can basically say a male-5 finds a female-5 about a 7. A female-5 finds a male-5 about an 8 in looks. For the male-5 an actual female-8 will be a 10 in his eyes, and for a female-5 an actual male-7 will be a 10. This is only in the attraction phase prior to personality and other variables. However it explains why people are attracted to who they are. So if you are ever wondering why some of your friends find certain girls so hot...this just might explain it. Of course now you are left wondering am I higher up or are they.
(I began babbling here...and a lil above here)

You also wonder what does the 5 consider someone above that range, someone beyond a 10. They usually begin finding unnecessary and untrue flaws, she's such a slut but then they talk about an equally slutty girl of lower ranking as being hotter. Also there are standard, and large group rankings. Usually in a large group, the natural good looking people are leaders and can sway other peoples votes. Once there is a voted consensus on say the 5 hottest girls in your school, these 5 can be used to decode the true values of the rest.
This all sort of gets pointless, and is just me discussing with myself. I realize there are flaws in this theory so thats why I am posting it for discussion. I think you get the basic idea, symmetry theory simply enough lets us know that psychologically it seems we are programmed to find certain people attractive, people we have realistic odds of mating with, and people that we could mate with which would produce offspring of a far higher value than our own. Inside us are also protective instincts, instincts that subconsciously make us feel right about being with people of a value around own(the girl next door), feel nervous when doing anything that could end our chances at mating(talking to a girl of a higher value with a mate who is higher in the tribe, and finally to prevent us from surefire ending our lives most of us have an unrealistic judgement-tool(this may be to prevent suicide and depression as well) which makes us find people well beyond our attractiveness almost repulsive. They aren't symmetrical to us, to the male-5 a female-5 is attractive, warm, and comforting...the girl next door...and she is almost always a 7...in his book.

[Shampoo]

Nice to meet you
This shit sounds legit man
I have no clue what to say but
Is this something you thought in your mind or research cause i googled this and it came up with math stuff
If this is from your mind ill be happy to add a couple of inputs

[WhiteKnight]

Yeah, this is me thinking about why hot girls say I'm hot. Ugly girls say I'm not. And why my friend thinks a 6 is like a 9. Its an idea I came up with over a lot of thought. The problem is right now it seems to go nowhere. I need a compound and precise theory that actually has a lesson or some value to the readers of it. I have a feeling that is there.

Oh, and also a few years ago when I was in middle school my friend had this GF I didn't like very much. I commented one time its kinda weird you two look like brother and sister, to which she responded well you are naturally attracted to people that look like they could be family. On one hand I thought no...incest...no, but on the other hand it is sort of a basis for this theory.

(Oh, and proof for this are...Sexually a man has to get aroused for us to reproduce. I can't explain how the kids, no offense meant but the easiest way for you to know who I"m talking about is losers, I hear are having sex with their nasty girlfriends. I don't think I could ever get it up with one of those girls. So these guys have to find them attractive. If they didn't find less high value girls attractive, how could they ever mate and continue their genepool its an evolutionary safetyswitch)

[Shampoo]

Dude holy shit i was wondering this too.
-Do the fags think the girls their talking with thinks if their hot or is it only their resource
-The look alike might be right but i dont know cause im asian and i like white chicks

-This might help you:
Girls i think are hot think of me as average
Girls i think are average think of me as hot

There has to be a connection there cause it sounds like we both have heard this

Megan Fox is the 10 on my scale, while to others she an 8

Your correct there is some thing there. Ill probally sleep this one over and think about it all day tommorow, this is intresting as shit.

[WhiteKnight]

Well like I said I think that is kinda incestuous and wrong...and I got no problem with you liking white chicks in my theory. The only thing is how do you know hot chicks think you are average? How do you know average chicks think you are hot? That kinda debunks my theory, but I think I know why this is happening to you. Well I have two ideas for your case... but yeah think about it and let's discuss this more tomorrow.

Note to self: 2 ideas : think style, ghetto girls, finding who you are, and yourself at 14. What's inbetween average and hot...lets destroy hot and call it cute.

[Shampoo]

The reason why i know?

Ok lets put some race in your theory.
I'm asian, not fully but 75% so lets look at it from this perspective:
I'm not really into black girls. The hottest (Cutest) black girl i think is a 7 , A 10 to all the black guys. I like white and hispanic girls. What i would rate a 9 people would rate a 7, but what i rate a 10 people agree and say shes a 10 too.

Now the black girls i would rate under a 5 every year tell me they think im sexy. Why? I dont know. Also a white girl thats a 6 and i didnt even know madeout with me.
Lets not get it wrong some white girls do like me but the ones that are 8, 9, 10 even 7 sometimes talk to me but dont see me as someone they can have sex with

Now with race still on the factor lets kinda widen your theory:
Preppy White Guys
-White Girls.
-Sometimes mixed
-Or even white colored

Blacks
-White
-Black
-Hispanic
-Asian
-Everything

Asian
-White
-Mixed
-Hispanic

Im not trying to stereotype or speak for anyone but this is what i see at school.
If we categorize like this we can add your theory of the plus 2 thing.
A point depending on race, superior race of that school or state. Then by your esteem confidence half point or not.
Popularity within that social group of the girl should be factored in. +1

like you mentioned even though girls ARE for looks it doesn't weigh in that much. So:
For Girls:
Hygiene-.5
Looks-1
Personality/Pop. Scale-2

Scale
1-3.5
2-4.5
3-5.5
4-6.5
5-7.5
6-8.5
7-9.5
8, 9, and 10 are all classified as 10+

Read it like this-
To a 1 a 1 is a 3.5
To a 2 a 2 is a 4.5 and etc.

I just gotta find how you can rate your self you know. How do you know what you are.

[Grape]

ohhhh my gosh.
this is quite interesting seeming how true it is.
keep on discussing, i'm hooked.

[RMO]

wait, this is all good, but as far as races go
im white
And I prefer white brunettes above everything, i dont know why I just do, now lets talk ither colors.
as far as black goes Im not into full on african hardcore black, the lips stick to far out, but people like exotic, so any body who has creme colored skin is normal and as far as asians go im fine. the real deciding factors for me is size and face type.
if a girl is to thin she loses points, if a girl is to fat i dont rate her. also I prefer women who are shorter than me.
so im not really sure how to apply symettery theory but race isnt as imprtant as if she hot or not

[WhiteKnight]

LOL well what The New Show is talking about is a specific ranking system for women I think...something that spans across everywhere based on social status, race, etc. Not really what I am going for, but maybe it can help him out.
Hmm I had a real interesting new thought about this today in school I will try to edit it into this post later.
By you throwing race in it does make an interesting factor...in general races seem to be most attracted to each other. So although this should be factored in, its like simple sciences. NASA accounts for the gravity pull of the sun, the moon, and the earth before a launch. But in 9th grade physical science equations we don't need to factor all that in. It's best to keep it simple.

So...
Quite Simply: You and your friends all seem to be naturally about the same rank, you guys have symmetry. The black girl you said is a 10 to black guys...how do you know this? According to this theory she is a 7 to you because she is a about the same from a visual perspective as you(remember a 5 rates another 5 higher than a 5.) So she is a 10 to the black guys because she is better looking than they are.
Now I don't deny that each race is naturally attracted more so to people of their race(they are and its a genetic truth). But like you said this can probably be factored in with another +/- 1 or 2 points. However the points aren't key to this theory. The theory is that we are all naturally pulled towards those we have a good chance of mating with.
However I will disagree with the thing where you charted who guys from each of the races can get? Or was it who they are attracted to? I can tell you as a white guy I love ethnic girls. I think the reason behind racial mixing is, well one there is nothing wrong with it but in truth I think there is less stage 1 attraction. I think that new age culture, female rebellion, sexual awakening, and social upbringing have lead to this. There are far higher numbers of open homosexuals these days, a huge influx is coming from young women who label themselves as bisexual. I personally don't really believe in bisexuality, you are gay or straight, you're attracted to chicks or dicks.
But this is a tangent I am on solely to prove the point if we are talking about a theory which deals with evolution and survival, you need to forget these other things caused by sociological issues...they are new age and while they should be accounted for...its kind of a fraud.
Symmetry is simple, two halves naturally notice similarity and want to come together. The problem with this comes when you think about 9s, and 10s. I need to figure out how they affect everyone else in the theory. 0s and 1s you might say so too, but I figure they will be weeded out without exceptional intervention.

[Alek]

lol..

Simple version: People who think that they have a low self worth, attract low self worth people, and with that lowness, comes low standards. Ta-da.

[Grape]

even simpler: Rapport creates attraction.

[WhiteKnight]

Haha I was thinking simply...
People of the same rank(visually) will find others of the same rank 7s-Good Looking. And therefore it simply would say that the better looking you are the easier you will have it. This theory has nothing to do with self confidence or self image, but I will say it isn't meant to be negative. I believe that game always will be the great equalizer.

I was also saying that being attractive is actually your visible representation of some of your evolution value and what we perceive as people being good looking is something in our brain which is calculating 1) whether they are worth replicating with us and 2) whether we have a chance with them. Hence to naturally prevent mania, depression, and other diseases of the psychosis: If your appearance is a 6, your brain will perceive a female who is an 8(your first judgement) as a 10 because you have good enough odds of getting her(a nice evolutionary boost for your genepool) TO being rejected(harming you mentally and socially-lowering your chances of mating).

I have been thinking and I think if you approach quick enough you can break symmetry theory from ever occurring.

Or at least it will be more accurate. Tomorrow I will post on the many possible positives and negatives if this is occurring in our subconscious. I will end on this note, another possibility of symmetry is kind of negative. So before I say it I will repeat that game is the great equalizer, and although being good looking helps...Rapport creates attraction.

So here it is: If you consider your appearance(not just clothing, style, or muscles from working out but your bone structure you know being good looking) it is the first impression you make on anyone. In the paraphrased words of Charles Wheelan, judging a book by its cover may not completely reveal what is inside but if you need to make a quick decision it is the best source of information you got. This is revealing a big chunk of your evolution value, and if you consider that an 8 is better looking than a 6 they should have a high evolution value at least thus far. That means that excluding taste(what we got into earlier, largely connected to ethnicity) because that throws off the perfect judgement we need for this example. An 8 is going to rank people by looks better, because the 8 has higher evolution value and can better spot/sort higher evolution value people.

So all symmetry theory really tells us at this point is...you can achieve happiness if you just listen to yourself and are your own man, a simple concept of being alpha.

[samiam]

Hahaha, this is awesome. I was just wondering yesterday why ugly couples seem to happen all the time. You'd think that they would find each other gross like other people do, but this theory explains it all! I think you deserve a Nobel Prize