xartist545
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Post by xartist545 on Dec 26, 2009 16:36:47 GMT -5
In general, say you cold approach a girl at the mall, hang out for a bit, and meet up for a day 2 or 3 a few days later, and she wants to watch a movie, go iceskating, etc. do you pay for her ticket?
If not, and she expects you to, how do you tell her to pay for herself?
Also, I know movies are shit, cuz nothing gets done, unless your'e going to "not watch the movie," so please just answer the question.
Thanks a lot guys,
I'm very grateful for all your guys's work on the forum.
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Alek
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Post by Alek on Dec 26, 2009 16:58:42 GMT -5
no dude, dont ever pay for a girls anything. ur not her personal atm machine, and if she has any brains she should realize that.
If you go to dinner or something, be like ok half the bill. If she says no, then you dont want a girl like that anyway
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Lego
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Post by Lego on Dec 27, 2009 14:44:01 GMT -5
I agree with alek, never support a girl with money. Although thats the short version, i wanna add that you can in fact pay something for a girl and still dont look like an afc.
It depends on you, because the way you feel about it, is the way she will feel about it. And if pay her ticket ask yourself do you want to pay her ticket? and why do you want to do that?
You dont feel its any big deal, but you also feel its still something, you are still giving her a treat. And you dont treat her nicely because you feel you need/have to, just because its a well known norm that guys have to do that to girls and so on. You treat her nicely because you want to, because thats what you like to do. The key is to make sure your lust to treat her good, does not come from the norm i talked about, it does not just come out of nowhere, but it genuinely comes from inside you, it comes from the fact that you WANT to. This, gentlemen, is the difference between afc and alpha.
It sounds weird right, u would think the difference is just in the words, how you say it, pay or dont pay and so on. But i think we all agree on that girls can see right past that, they can easily see through any tricks and lines and if you have an afc inside you, she will find him. They can and will doublecheck any signs of you being alpha on the outside with the alpha on your inside. This is the mistake a lot of guys make, trying to become pua and alpha on the outside before taking the time to become alpha on the inside first, which is alot more work.
lol i got a little carried away there but i hope these words of wisdom answers us question
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Calli
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Post by Calli on Dec 27, 2009 15:11:18 GMT -5
^^^ I agree, it's ok to sometimes pay for things, but it is extremely important that you don't come across as trying to win her over with money.
I have a friend who is always driving this girl places, buying her drinks, food, movie tickets etc, pays for anything she wants. He thinks he is doing great, but he doesn't realize she is using him as a giant wallet.
So like Laezy said, before you take out your wallet, think, Why am I paying? If you are paying to impress her, DONT!
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Chris
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Post by Chris on Dec 27, 2009 16:07:55 GMT -5
here's the best answer i came across after worrying about this for a long time in the past:
treat her no differently than a female friend in this case.
Sure its ok to pay for little things like, say, icecream, most girls will insist they pay for themselves anyway. If you do end up paying for something small, just say "its cool, you'll just owe me next time." bam. you got her to committ to a later hang out and to buy you something. Is the point of the day2 to get her/you to be the one to pay? hope not, or you wont enjoy urself. just chill like its one of your female friends.
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Alek
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Post by Alek on Dec 27, 2009 23:07:04 GMT -5
righto
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darkpwns
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Post by darkpwns on Dec 28, 2009 1:45:44 GMT -5
IMO if she invites you she is paying for herself, it wasn't in your daily plan to go. But if you invite her then I believe you should pay. Like its seriously only a few bucks, they'll just see you as cheap, proven fact.
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gansta344u
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Post by gansta344u on Dec 28, 2009 9:40:20 GMT -5
^^ true that... only reason PUA gurus like mystery say not to buy a girl a drink or anything is when ur first meeting her.... or as a way to talk to her.. if you spend time with her and know her/day 2 then yeah some ice cream/ food you should pay for her or at least yourself so you dont come off as cheap.. which can happen
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Post by Grape on Dec 28, 2009 10:42:26 GMT -5
do what you want. it wont affect your game. stop focusing on such minor details and spend your time and effort on bigger things.
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Post by nutrick on Dec 29, 2009 0:43:57 GMT -5
do what you want. it wont affect your game. stop focusing on such minor details and spend your time and effort on bigger things. agreed.
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darkpwns
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Post by darkpwns on Dec 29, 2009 19:38:24 GMT -5
do what you want. it wont affect your game. stop focusing on such minor details and spend your time and effort on bigger things. agreed. do not agree. Small things are equally important, opening the door, walking on the curbside etc. It also DOES affect if she ever wants to go out with you again if she feels you're a cheap dick. I don't think he's focusing on it at all, what's there to focus on? Its just a ticket. I think he just wants to know, and knowledge IS power.
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Post by $wagg on Dec 30, 2009 0:25:01 GMT -5
Personally I think you should react depending on the frame you set and your style of game. Honestly, I go by this motto: If she's not giving me head, why am i paying for her dinner?
haha, sounds ridiculous but it's congruent with the way I portray myself. I don't go out of my way to please her, but at the same time I still do sweet little things to make her feel pleasure.
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