6 pack vs Bulking up

[canadiankid]

All you girls out there would you rather a skinny guy with a ripped 6 pack or a bulkier muscular guy? (not sure where it goes as it's a general opinion question?)

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All I know is that they like a nice medium.

6 packs always turn a girl on, however some nice muskels don't hurt either ;D

Just don't get too jacked, because then girls think you're too into yourself and a prima donna and shit and besides, girls just plain don't like guys too huge.

Btw, I'm not a girl, but this is from years of experience.

EDIT: Of course there are always exceptions to this. Some girls date nothing but huge, jacked guys, whereas some girls can't stand them.

[Calli]

I'm not a girl either, but from experience, their biggest concern with regards to bodies seems to be abs, abs, abs.

Despite this, a combination is definitely best, a six pack looks best balanced by a nice set of pecs and delts and thick arms.

If you bulk cleanly, you should be able to get bigger with a minimal amount of fat storage. It's not a matter of choosing between muscles or low bf.

[Johnny Bravo]

Yeah, what cali said, plus.....you can't really show off a 6 pack, when you have three inch arms. Its like wtf?

[sleeky]

Having big muscles or having a 6 pack does not get you girls(as long as you dont look like Frodo).
If you have a nice enough build, look athletic enough, dont worry about it too much. If you like improving your body, then sure go for it, but do it for yourself, not for the girls. Girls like it sure, its just a bonus though. Just like we like if they have a talent for being able to shove a 10 inch cucumber down their throat without chocking - its not a make or break situation, just a bonus.
So go for whatever you enjoy, for whatever makes you feel better. Trust me, from personal experience, big muscles does not equal girls.
Big muscles might give you more confidence(which is the most attractive quality for girls), but that physical feature alone wont give you anything.

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Apr 8, 2010 15:32:17 GMT -5 sleeky said:

Having big muscles or having a 6 pack does not get you girls(as long as you dont look like Frodo).
If you have a nice enough build, look athletic enough, dont worry about it too much. If you like improving your body, then sure go for it, but do it for yourself, not for the girls. Girls like it sure, its just a bonus though. Just like we like if they have a talent for being able to shove a 10 inch cucumber down their throat without chocking - its not a make or break situation, just a bonus.
So go for whatever you enjoy, for whatever makes you feel better. Trust me, from personal experience, big muscles does not equal girls.
Big muscles might give you more confidence(which is the most attractive quality for girls), but that physical feature alone wont give you anything.

I agree and disagree. The fact of the matter is girls are directly attracted to looks or in this case muscles. It sounds like you're just saying this because the community says that "looks don't matter". Well, the thing is, the community lied. Looks do matter. It's just like how guys like girls who take care of themselves (lean, no blemishes, etc), girls like the same thing in guys.

In fact, there were no fat people until recent years. Evolutionarily speaking, not being fit is unattractive.

There's no reason not to be working out. You get confidence, you get muscles, you feel good, and you have a better chance of girls noticing you. Where's the downside? As long as you don't work out like a retard, there is no downside.

Btw, if a girl can't shove a 10 inch cucumber down her throat without choking, it's a deal breaker for me

[sleeky]

Yea, I understand what your saying, but I still have to disagree with you on the fact that looks do matter. They are just a bonus.
Well actually, I take that back. Looks DO matter, in the sense that if you look like a hobo youre not going to attract anyone, but if youre clean cut, well groomed, look like you care for yourself, then to a woman anything more than that is just a bonus to the package.
But anyways, everyone has their own opinion, whatever works for you! But yea, working out defiantly is NOT a bad thing. No downsides to it, just dont work out in the hope that being buff will get you chicks. It wont.

[RMO]

Apr 8, 2010 16:07:43 GMT -5 @aaron4prez said:

Btw, if a girl can't shove a 10 inch cucumber down her throat without choking, it's a deal breaker for me

BWAHAHAHA

first off, its not difficult to work on both, it also depends on what they're going to see. If you know your going to be shirtless and your abs are lacking i would work on them. If you are not going to be work on your arms.

You see your abs and arms can get tone very quickly, so with your shirt off if your arms are tone they match the rest of your body, but you want your shirts to fit tight so if your arms are pencils then that might be difficult.

as far as looks mattering

they do, to a small extent, it it one of the things a girl takes into account, but you can be a good enough PUA that they do not matter to her.

However my belief of PUA is just a facet of making yourself a well rounded individual, so you should be working out anyway so you can be a better person.

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Apr 8, 2010 16:55:09 GMT -5 RMO said:

However my belief of PUA is just a facet of making yourself a well rounded individual, so you should be working out anyway so you can be a better person.

Agreed.

[Calli]

I often hear people saying that looks don't matter, but I disagree. Sure, looks aren't the most important factor, but they certainly play a part in attraction.

My opinion on this is formed from what I observe in the real world, not from what I read in PUA material.

I have seen on many occasions guys getting attention from girls based on their looks. In fact just a few days ago I got opened by a cute girl who knew nothing of my personality, from looks alone.

But despite this, looks alone are not enough to get girls. If you have bad posture and body language, wear nasty clothes, or act needy, good looks aren't going to get you laid.

[owl]

Why not both Canadian? You don't have to be massive but if your spending enough time in the gym to get a six-pack (unless you work out at home) you should be able to bulk up a little, just doing free weights.

I've always thought "looks never hurt, personality never fails"

[Le Dude]

I think the funniest part here is that you asked "For all the girls out there"....quite honestly I think we've got a total of 4 registered users that are girls and besides from that lurker swimmergirl...gurl...w/e. None of them show up anymore.

I contribute it to the fact that this forum is like that scene in Eurotrip. Every time a girl comes along everybody's gotta go and do creepy shit...like trying to pick them up.

OT: Honestly, if you are skinny, you're gonna have a 6 pack...is that attractive? Fuck no. Quite honestly you can just look pretty jacked and chicks will love it. I mean, I've got cuts on my stomach but I don't have a six pack at all. Now my arms? You best believe those are crazy, tricep popping out, veined bicep. Pecs are in decent shape and give me a somewhat "alpha" look in a small shirt. Back powerful, legs powerful.

In all, its the total package. From a pick-up point of view (since I'm a "dandy") I believe being lean is the way...but not Brad Pitt in Fight Club lean...maybe Brad Pitt in Troy lean.

[Deleted]

Nah, this won't attract girls at all

Btw Le Dude, your whole post reeked of validation issues. Just sayin.

[Le Dude]

aaron: My friend has a body just like that and girls don't find it irresistible. I find the difference there is brand recognition.

Also, my post may seem to be....self-indulgent? Yes, that is the word I am looking for. That's because I don't presume to know for a fact what girls like. I'm simply going on about what girls do like about my body. Its not so different from the way MPUAs decide it is proper to detail the circumstances of their threesomes to the seminar.

The fact you used that as a reason to attack my inner game is absolutely appalling. It is as if I had somehow offending your view on life and you decided to lash out.

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Apr 15, 2010 13:28:31 GMT -5 @Le Dude said:

aaron: My friend has a body just like that and girls don't find it irresistible. I find the difference there is brand recognition.

Really? I find that extremely hard to believe. Does he wear nothing but hoodies, because that's the only way I can see his body not attracting girls. Obviously its not his body that is the reason why girls aren't all over him. I know plenty of skinny fuckers who have great abs and guess what? The girls fucking love it. This is personal experience talking here.

Apr 15, 2010 13:28:31 GMT -5 @Le Dude said:

Also, my post may seem to be....self-indulgent? Yes, that is the word I am looking for. That's because I don't presume to know for a fact what girls like. I'm simply going on about what girls do like about my body. Its not so different from the way MPUAs decide it is proper to detail the circumstances of their threesomes to the seminar.

I don't know what "mPUAs" you are listening to, but I've never heard any go into detail on their own threesomes and if they did, they would probably explain how they got to that point, not say, "Hey guys! I had the most awesome threesome ever! Please validate me!"

Self-indulgent is not the word you are looking for. I was thinking more along the lines of self-obsessed. Half your post is how you are the coolest motherfucker this side of the mississippi.

By the way, this is no attack on your "inner game". This is just tough love. The fact is, your post reeked of "Validate me please! I want everyone to know how jacked I am!" No girl likes that. You are the prima donna that I was describing earlier in this thread. Get rid of your ego.