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Post by Sloth on Apr 13, 2010 7:18:15 GMT -5
Does it even exist? At my age (17) when someone says they're in love i just think they're naive, but think about it... does it exist? how can we be sure it's not just infatuation, and that a strong infatuation is interpreted as love, so many marriages end in divorce now i think people give love a bad name, they just THINK they're in love - TV's influence is shit too.
Do you guys think love exists? - Why?
I think it does, but i don't know why, or when. It's more 'i hope it does' but i gotta believe in it really.
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Post by Luis the awesomest of awesomes on Apr 13, 2010 15:38:05 GMT -5
I believe in love but i hate that FAKE love, it's called co-dependence. I believe love takes a long time to apear it is not an emotion ONLY it is also a rational, judging relationship
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Post by extra on Apr 13, 2010 15:40:28 GMT -5
Yeah it exists, obviously man otherwise it would have never been as big as it is these days. It even exists at our age man, just much, much rarer and much more misunderstood. Many times like you say it's just what they think it is while it's really not.
It's hard to understand what romantic love is when you haven't experienced it. It's not like what you think it is, and yet in many ways is so much more cliche than you expect. You know all that corny shit that honestly could not be said with a straight face?
It's when you find yourself saying stuff like that unwittingly, and realizing how much you really mean it. No sarcasm, no jokes. It's knowing a person so well, being so comfortable with them about anything, and knowing they know you as well in return. Illusionatory, yeah, and if you're a well reasoned person you may even realize it. But you won't care.
I wasn't truly in love when I told my girlfriend that I loved her, several months into the relationship. I was on the way, and I thought I was, but I look on that now as infatuation. I barely knew the girl. I really knew I loved her, though, when I told her one night. I realized how true it is - I loved her, every part of her. I loved the way she looked at me. I loved her smile. I loved the way she would say things, and the way she thought. I loved the way she understood me and I understood her. Etcetera, one could go on all day and I think you get the picture.
But most of all, what made me see it, something that scared me then, was realizing how important she was to me. I realized that, whatever happened, I would always love her. I realized that, at that moment, she was the most important thing in the world to me. That's how you know you're in love mate.
It's a wonderful thing mate. I forget how much I love my girl sometimes, I can take her for granted or even think of the single life. But I'm always reminded of it in the end, and love her all the more.
And realize, that you don't have to live in a fantasy land to have it. I know that my relationship will more than likely not work out. If swinging emotions and bad circumstance don't do us part in the coming year, college probably will. It doesn't make the love we share any less.
EDIT: as most things concerning love, my post probably came out more confusing and jumbled than I intended. Hopefully you can retrieve at the very least the evidence that love exists.
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Post by Gumby on Apr 14, 2010 6:44:12 GMT -5
Baby don't hurt me.
But anyway, we all know what crushes feel like, that desire to see/talk to that person, and the butterflies whenever you think about them (all the time.)
Many people misconstrue this as love, which is just...dumb. Undestandable, I've done it, but it's dumb.
I don't believe in love. To me it sounds like a higher order of attraction that I think isn't there.
But that's just me...
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Post by darkpwns on Apr 14, 2010 14:07:31 GMT -5
I don't believe in love. I believe in a deep type of attraction that blends into the realm of friendship creating a near-infallible bond. That's what I believe in. But this magical thing called love? Pffft, go find me a unicorn. Preferably when you aren't popping shrooms.
When I was a frosh till I was a junior I believed I was in love....but it was just an infatuation, one that led me to resent the person I was in "love" with. And there are all these different variations that I honestly do not understand.
In love vs. I love him/her, what the fuck is the difference, just because its an easier way of saying "I feel a strong emotional connection towards him/her" doesn't justify confusing the fuck out of everybody else when referencing it.
I had a girlfriend right after I started pick-up, it didn't take me long to say those three words so foolishly, at the time I actually did believe it, I had known her for a while so it wasn't exactly like "woohoo I just met you but I wanna spend my whole life with you and have babies and YAY!" kind of deal. By the time we broke up I realized that she was perhaps the closest thing to a best friend a guy could have, and I could say unbelievably cheesy things and get away with it (even something like "you complete me")...but its just that.
My uncle Ali painted my whole view on love when I was about 8, he gave me a whole rage filled discussion on why it didn't exist (and no he did not go through a breakup). I stand by what he told me, I'll let other people believe they've found their happily ever after. When they break down in tears after it almost inevitably fails, I won't be there to say "I told you so"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2010 14:44:48 GMT -5
Ok, there's a lot of opinions on this, and I can say, yes I do believe in love.
Honestly, extra hit the nail right on the head.
My opinion is that the only people who don't believe in love are those who either were hurt in a relationship or are getting sucked into this community.
The people who were hurt by relationships only say love doesn't exist just because they thought what they had with a person was love, and when they get hurt and realize it wasn't love, they rationalize that there is no such thing as love. They just say that to protect themselves so they don't get hurt again. I personally get pissed every time I hear a scorned person say love is bullshit or there's no such thing because I know there is.
Also, community-wise, people are finding out that girls cheat, girls aren't angels, they're discovering the word attraction, and getting one too many same night lays. Also, they take whatever the community says as fact. That's just wrong and leads to fucked up people.
Also, you can't try and understand love. Love is love. There's no understanding of it. It just is. Some things you can't figure out and I am perfectly okay with that.
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Post by Sloth on Apr 14, 2010 14:50:16 GMT -5
Is love not a form of beauty, and why do we appreciate such beauty?
True, there is a survival instinct in finding an opposite sex beautiful, but not in finding a sunset beauty, would you not agree?
So why do we appreciate it on such a level?
If we have been given the ability to appreciate such beauty, surely we have the ability to love
also, there's some people who like, if their partner dies they just never recover, or they never find anyone else.
And there's some people who marry for 60 years, and never lose their passion.
surely it's flawed to call this attraction, or even a deep form of attraction and connection because there's cases, like long long marriages, or love at first sight, that you can't really explain. And it's a shame some naive people have slurred this, even those that get married - they may still not be in love.
There's some philosophy for you boys!
Peeeace x
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Post by Sloth on Apr 14, 2010 14:54:56 GMT -5
If psychology has taught me anything, it's that these concepts, like love, are down to ridiculously complex chemical reactions of hormons and shit in the brain.
Perhaps not love though, it really is incoherent for us to even begin to speculate about, just like God.
I could talk about this kind of topic for hours.
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Post by Luis the awesomest of awesomes on Apr 14, 2010 15:44:01 GMT -5
HAHA i agree with sloth I could talk bout this topic for HOURS. Anyway, one more thing i wanna say, for those of you who haven't thought of this, LOVE IS NOT ONLY AN EMOTION LOVE IS: 1. a PERSON: God is Love( Bible) 2 A place: I don't know in what religous book it says this but: "in the realm of love we find life again" 3 EMOTION: i don't need to explain that one
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Post by darkpwns on Apr 14, 2010 16:19:45 GMT -5
Honestly, love is a bad debate to bring up.
There are way too many arguments and all of it is bullshit.
Just like a debate on God.
Debater 1: NOTHING HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE!
Debater 2: WHO CREATED THE GROUND THE SKY...YOU!!!?!?!?!
but instead a love debate would be much more sickening
Debater 1: Love is when you can stay up all night with someone and blah blah never get tired of them and blah blah and say things you see in movies and don't feel awkward and blah blah and feel like you can't live without them...no, that isn't unhealthy at all. Fuck you.
Debater 2: Love doesn't exist because there is no evidence to say so.
Debater 3: In that case, love is a grey area in which one doesn't know if it exists or not, and it is all based on faith....like trusting that drink the girl across the bar bought you.
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Post by RMO on Apr 14, 2010 19:56:39 GMT -5
Debater 3 nihilism win
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Post by Sloth on Apr 18, 2010 13:32:44 GMT -5
That aint attraction, that's love right there boys!
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