GET HER ATTENTION!

[perceverance]

Ok guys I have another quick question. There is a HB 7 in on of my math classes but the problem is that she usually doesn't give a shit if your being funny or being the class clown. She usually doesn't laugh at anything I say even if the whole class cracks up, she'll just look at me with a blank face and then look away. Now, I have known this chick for around 2 years and when I first met her we talked for like a month and we were becoming friends but we just stopped talking to each other for no apparent reason. Now my real question here is, how do you get a girl's attention when she acts like this girl? In my class there are around 2 guys that she talks to and they are basically her BFF's and they have been friends for a long time, she also talks to her chick friends in the class which are around 2 or 3. How do I manage to get her attention and start gaming her?

[Luis the awesomest of awesomes]

I didn't think you would need her attention to "game her" saying that I presume you are looking to impress her AKA validation from her. come on man just talk to her again. oh and you could say something like "wow how long has it been since we talked?" work from there

[perceverance]

May 1, 2010 7:57:12 GMT -5 Luis the awesomest of awesomes said:

I didn't think you would need her attention to "game her" saying that I presume you are looking to impress her AKA validation from her. come on man just talk to her again. oh and you could say something like "wow how long has it been since we talked?" work from there

I know exactly what you mean but if I don't care about her she won't give a shit because she has more than enough guys chasing her so she won't care. In our class she doesn't give a shit about any of the guys, she just sits and talks to her guy friends Here and there sometimes but that's about it. If I ask her a question shell give me a 1 word answer. I see your point but I think this might be a diffrent situation.

[Luis the awesomest of awesomes]

ok let me try to explain myself again. I am not saying don't care cause she will. I say Don't care the one who cares least about the outcome is more likely to achieve it.
2 some women you just won't get
3 she seems like a bitch so stop talking to her and game other girls.
I don't have much info. to tell if you are doing it right, but don't act like your game rocks and it's totally her fault open up to the possibility that you aren't being interesting enough or, something like that. You know I think ill get ripped for this but you should read revelations (E-book) it's not that much about pickup and more about yourself (until the point i've read)

[perceverance]

Alright I'm confused. You're saying that the person who cares the least about the outcome will most likely achieve it but you are also saying that I might not be interested enough. So should I act interested or just not give a shit about her?

[Luis the awesomest of awesomes]

well there is a moment to act interested right now in my opinion, just talk to her. focus on all those things you learned like DHVs teasing etc.

[dionysus]

haha, NEGGGGGGGG

neg her, game her up. If she has 2347283917 guys going around telling her how beautiful she is and asking her out NEG HER!!!!

and maybe you aren't interesting enough or showing too much interest and might just be killing yourself.

get into the group, if a guy tries to say she's pretty then say yeah, she's okay and SMILE

her attention and interest will be directed on you

also you might enjoy negging her and calling her too plain and that she won't risk anything. but HAVE FUN WITH IT, the moment if becomes serious it goes from negs to insults

[perceverance]

May 6, 2010 7:48:47 GMT -5 dionysus said:

haha, NEGGGGGGGG

neg her, game her up. If she has 2347283917 guys going around telling her how beautiful she is and asking her out NEG HER!!!!

and maybe you aren't interesting enough or showing too much interest and might just be killing yourself.

get into the group, if a guy tries to say she's pretty then say yeah, she's okay and SMILE

her attention and interest will be directed on you

also you might enjoy negging her and calling her too plain and that she won't risk anything. but HAVE FUN WITH IT, the moment if becomes serious it goes from negs to insults

I see what you mean lol, but I had a bad experience with Negs once where I negged a girl who I thought had guys going for her because she was a 7 or 8 and it turned out she had been attracted to me but the negs just pushed her away. I try to be careful with those now so how do i know when to neg and when not to neg.
also, how do i become more interesting?

[Luis the awesomest of awesomes]

May 8, 2010 15:16:25 GMT -5 perceverance said:

May 6, 2010 7:48:47 GMT -5 dionysus said:

haha, NEGGGGGGGG

neg her, game her up. If she has 2347283917 guys going around telling her how beautiful she is and asking her out NEG HER!!!!

and maybe you aren't interesting enough or showing too much interest and might just be killing yourself.

get into the group, if a guy tries to say she's pretty then say yeah, she's okay and SMILE

her attention and interest will be directed on you

also you might enjoy negging her and calling her too plain and that she won't risk anything. but HAVE FUN WITH IT, the moment if becomes serious it goes from negs to insults

I see what you mean lol, but I had a bad experience with Negs once where I negged a girl who I thought had guys going for her because she was a 7 or 8 and it turned out she had been attracted to me but the negs just pushed her away. I try to be careful with those now so how do i know when to neg and when not to neg.
also, how do i become more interesting?

well man, If you neg and she reacts badly ("you asshole") then mystery says (and I agree) that this is a great time to practice to things
1micro calibrating
2. the ghost

To make it simple so you can keep it in your sub conscious.
If you IOD and she IOD as well (neg-"bad" reaction) then you IOI it's funny cause that's what you expect HER to do (she:IOD *first*, YOU: IOD, she: IOI)
get it? in other words neg until she is just about to explode then reward her for standing up to you or for standing you for that matter.
something I kinda "stole" from mystery but edited it:(so you have an example)
you: neg
her: "bad" "you are an asshole (it's not bad you are messing with her if she reacts like this there is nothing wrong with her)
you: OMG (pause to create tension), I FUCkING Love you. you are one of ours (smile) high five ( put your hand up high when she goes for it brush your hair)
you: I can't believe you fell for that *smile*(this is the IOD balance)

*if she doesn't go for the high five (IOD), then YOU IOD, don't make it a big deal just move back a little or say a false disqualifier, or look away.
**: when you say neg, do you mean nice neg like: you're such a dork. or do you mean asshole neg that doesn't work in high school like : I'm too cool for you? be careful, what you say can make you seem like an asshole.
****************************************************

Being "interesting":

"it doesn't matter what you say, it matters HOW you say it"

say anything you are gonna say only if you feel it, (sincerity) it's important.
check out some posts in conversation (look around

[perceverance]

First of all let me tell you that you should be a moderator in this forum because your response to my thread was exactly what I wanted. Not to say that the other responses weren't good but you explained it incredibly. We need more people like you mate. Alright, so when I negged the girl I'm telling you about I don't remember much of how I negged her but I do remember a part where she was saying something like "oh, I ALWAYS tell the truth" to which I responded with "somehow, I don't believe you". Idk if that counts as a bad neg but I negged her around 3 or 4 times in that convo and now she kind of doesn't talk to me that much anymore. Actually, she doesn't talk to me at all although me and her usually get a lot of across the room eye contact across the room. It's almost like she wants to approach me or something.

[Luis the awesomest of awesomes]

May 9, 2010 2:54:52 GMT -5 perceverance said:

First of all let me tell you that you should be a moderator in this forum because your response to my thread was exactly what I wanted. Not to say that the other responses weren't good but you explained it incredibly. We need more people like you mate. Alright, so when I negged the girl I'm telling you about I don't remember much of how I negged her but I do remember a part where she was saying something like "oh, I ALWAYS tell the truth" to which I responded with "somehow, I don't believe you". Idk if that counts as a bad neg but I negged her around 3 or 4 times in that convo and now she kind of doesn't talk to me that much anymore. Actually, she doesn't talk to me at all although me and her usually get a lot of across the room eye contact across the room. It's almost like she wants to approach me or something.

well thanks for the kind words, first off you have to understand one last thing... before i came into pick up I already studied it (Then I found out the study already existed) I came up with the phrase: tension= attraction (I don't know if it's someone else, I came up with it in my own reality.) so she could be dying to meet you but doesn't talk to you BECAUSE you negged her. Now the beauty of it is that (and this should be a load of your shoulders) you CAN make mistakes. So you made your and her relationship tense(=attraction) now go and TALK TO HER, about anything start a conversation, a great conversation starter is an opinion opener; since you already know her it works great! Example:
(I use this one alot I'll explain why in a sec)
"who lies more guys or girls?"
this is a great conversational opener because it can lead to talking about sex and you can change from her response (guys [usually]) to that's what they all say(IOD) but I'm curious(IOI) have fun!!
* remember to BALANCE you're IOD(negs, false disqualifiers, etc.) with an IOI(smile, compliment, investing value, compliance test, etc.) when she said: I ALWAYS tell the truth(IOI[investing value]) you should have IOIed back!(probably XD, although you were creating attraction so a neg tenses it up) you can say "somehow I don't believe you" but mix it with an IOI like a compliance test: "somehow I don't believe you(IOD), but let's see put up your hands like this"(show her and hold her hand as if you were a palm reader) (IOI[KINO}) if she complies (hook=IOI) then you IOD: "ok you freaked me out"(as if you had read her "horrible" and "Chaotic" future) if she doesn't comply(IOD) * this is however very improbable that she will not because she WILL try and see if you are magical (thank you twilight *id she doesn't comply, roll off (IOD) comeback later

[perceverance]

May 9, 2010 8:27:24 GMT -5 Luis the awesomest of awesomes said:

May 9, 2010 2:54:52 GMT -5 perceverance said:

First of all let me tell you that you should be a moderator in this forum because your response to my thread was exactly what I wanted. Not to say that the other responses weren't good but you explained it incredibly. We need more people like you mate. Alright, so when I negged the girl I'm telling you about I don't remember much of how I negged her but I do remember a part where she was saying something like "oh, I ALWAYS tell the truth" to which I responded with "somehow, I don't believe you". Idk if that counts as a bad neg but I negged her around 3 or 4 times in that convo and now she kind of doesn't talk to me that much anymore. Actually, she doesn't talk to me at all although me and her usually get a lot of across the room eye contact across the room. It's almost like she wants to approach me or something.

well thanks for the kind words, first off you have to understand one last thing... before i came into pick up I already studied it (Then I found out the study already existed) I came up with the phrase: tension= attraction (I don't know if it's someone else, I came up with it in my own reality.) so she could be dying to meet you but doesn't talk to you BECAUSE you negged her. Now the beauty of it is that (and this should be a load of your shoulders) you CAN make mistakes. So you made your and her relationship tense(=attraction) now go and TALK TO HER, about anything start a conversation, a great conversation starter is an opinion opener; since you already know her it works great! Example:
(I use this one alot I'll explain why in a sec)
"who lies more guys or girls?"
this is a great conversational opener because it can lead to talking about sex and you can change from her response (guys [usually]) to that's what they all say(IOD) but I'm curious(IOI) have fun!!
* remember to BALANCE you're IOD(negs, false disqualifiers, etc.) with an IOI(smile, compliment, investing value, compliance test, etc.) when she said: I ALWAYS tell the truth(IOI[investing value]) you should have IOIed back!(probably XD, although you were creating attraction so a neg tenses it up) you can say "somehow I don't believe you" but mix it with an IOI like a compliance test: "somehow I don't believe you(IOD), but let's see put up your hands like this"(show her and hold her hand as if you were a palm reader) (IOI[KINO}) if she complies (hook=IOI) then you IOD: "ok you freaked me out"(as if you had read her "horrible" and "Chaotic" future) if she doesn't comply(IOD) * this is however very improbable that she will not because she WILL try and see if you are magical (thank you twilight *id she doesn't comply, roll off (IOD) comeback later

Well explained! So i should try to create tension if shes a HB 8 or 9 only though right? Because if I negged a girl who didn't have such high self esteem, she might think im insulting her right? And I should always balance a neg with a IOI no matter how hot she is am I right?

[Luis the awesomest of awesomes]

RIGHT!! and not only that but it's always goo to TALK TO HER quit asking so many questions and do it

[perceverance]

alright one last question. So today I was in the class again and one of the high value guys in that class cracked a few jokes and had this chick laughing hella hard. Now I crack more jokes than him and usually have the whole class laughing but she wont even budge a smile at my jokes. The kid that made her laugh is like one of her best friends so I was just wondering how to get her to actually notice my jokes and not just stare off with a blank face while the rest of the class is laughing? I think it might be because that kid knows her well. But there is like a mini group in that class because all the hot girls tend to only laugh and joke around with those 2 guys and not give a shit about anyone else even though I talk to everyone and have everyone laughing out loud but all the hot girls(around 3 or 4) don't give a shit even if i am high value and just go to those 2 guys and joke around. They will not even try to talk to me, they wont even BUDGE a smile but when they talk to the other 2 guys they have a smile that is wide enough to fit a dick in there haha WHAT IS WRONG lol

[Sye~]

YOU ARE LOOKING FOR HER APPROVAL TOOOOO DAMN MUCH!

If you want her to pay attention to your jokes, then speak with her directly.
Omg -rips hair out- with this neg theory bullcrap.
REAL TALKS RIGHT NOW; YOU SHOULD NOT BEING USING THE NEG THEORY!
This is why cocky funny was born. There are too many PUA's who take negging too far.
You should only neg once or twice in an entire conversation with a girl. This girl is like a what?
HB7-8 in highschool? Common mate.
I only neg once SOMETIMES when talking to a girl. I do it at the beginning so right away they know that I'm not there to try and get into their pants. I DO NOT DO THE CHASING.
The girl should be wanting your attention.
You already pretty much screwed it up with that last girl negging way too much.
Cocky funny, and teasing are the only things you should be doing.
Neg theory is major flawed - and you probably are horrible at cold reading, so I doubt you'd neg the correct people.
So just do the girls and us PUAs a favor, and don't neg at all.
Just stick to teasing. Because thats lighthearted and fun for the both of you.

I think the first thing you need to do is figure out what you want here. Are you trying to become the class clown? Are you seeking approval from everyone in your class?
You seriously need to get yourself together and work on your inner game because this inner need for attention is going to hurt you in the field.
If you want this girl, you go up and talk to her. Throw in some cocky funny attitude to not fall into the friends zone, and you're good to go. Please don't neg, and stop this IoD IoI bull.
I do believe in rewarding with hugs and attention and etc. The only IoI I care for if her laughing.
I don't care if she walks off, and I surely will walk off at any time. The girls know that and make sure I don't. The only IOI that I believe matters now in the game is the test where you move the hair on her face. It means to me, that I can kiss her at any time.

Stop trying to make this a step by step thing, and move more naturally.
I have nothing against the Mystery method, I've learn some things from him; and I really love that little finger trick he showed on his Reality Show that I do on girls.
But other then that, the game has moved more natural, and cocky funny. Jump on this bandwagon already, and work on your inner game and goals with PUA.

Good luck mate.