Post by RMO on Jun 11, 2010 1:14:42 GMT -5
This is for Aaron4prez
So in the short time I've been on this forum I have learned quite bit, on and offline, educating and application and I have found there are different stereotypes that I have found and would like to clear up their definitions, or at least my opinion of the definitions.
Instinctual
These are the stereotypes that naturally occur without PUA ever existing.
AFC
most guys, it means Average Frustrated Chump, these guys represent most of the male population, they might get laid sometimes but in general these guys don't know that much about women, nor do they attract women. These guys are probably what most of this forum still is or used to be. Also if you are a natural or you understand game at all you can tell who is AFC and whose not, its pretty easy actually. And if you don't know these guys whenever you watch TV and see the 'loser' character who can't deal with girls, thats an example of AFC.
Natural
These guys found the company of the fairer sex at a much younger age then most people, or started conversing with women at a young age so they think about girls differently then most guys. They naturally understand how a woman's mind works, how to fulfill them, and how to get laid, but at an unconscious level, so they can't tell people exactly how they did it, nor can they help people do it. They also can't stop so they may become dissatisfied by getting with girls. These are not like jock's or AMOG's, think the charismatic guy who steals girls who have been hanging with all their AFC friends who have been pushed into the LJBF zone.
AMOG
This is the Alpha Male of the group. These guys are usually the jock stereotype and leads his group of friends and is naturally pre-selected. He does not have to have charm or be a natural to be an AMOG, but naturals can be AMOGS. These guys usually assert dominance over the males in the group and is usually the asshole/ douchebag of the group. They are the ones who will get in your face about shit if they feel threatened. They don't have to be physically dominating, but they can be an intellectual or a emotional controller, these can also be AMOG's but the jock stereotype is the the most common. Now most PUA's on this forum will tear me a new one because this definition is slightly different from most of theirs, but stay with me.
PUA
The Pick Up Arts
These are guys who know how to use PUA, the application of emotional control and knowing all the steps to reach the sex location, now this is knowing, not applying necessarily.
PUA In Training
This is what most of the members of the forum is. They have read the game or some form of PUA book and understand the concepts but actually getting girls is not necessarily possible, you have seen the other side and so your thought process has fundamentally changed, even if it is just a slight change. kind of a matrix moment but instead of possibly hallucinogenic drugs its knowledge.
mPUA
The masters, Mystery, Style, Ross Jefferies, Gambit, matador, ect ect these guys have it done, they can get any woman they want, whenever they want. These guys may use routines and gambits, no pun intended, but its embedded in their personality. Unfortunately what works for them will not always work for your average student and some of the programs that the mPUA's sell are not always a good idea to follow, like ross jefferies hypnotism.
parrots
Recently I coined this because of some confusion between these guys and PUA's. Some of the mPUa's teach how to PUA and those who take pick up like a science and copy everything instead of actually coming up with there own stuff they just say stuff they've been tuaght to. Also Tyler Durden is not a PUA he is a parrot and this horrible hypocrisy is an abomination to fight club, where chuck palaniuk's Tyler Durden was the ultimate natural. This is not what you want to be
Natural Asshole
I'm afraid to say this, but there is no other way of describing them, and I use to be one to, and so have a more then a few of our members. This group of guys don't use material or routines most of the time and when they do its usually routines that they make. Their decent at game and are usually okay in most social situations. However their assholes, they dress like assholes, they act like assholes. They are AMOGs created via PUA and they are abominations. Their complete lack of respect for women, and thier need to inject negative vibe whenever they are threatened is quite annoying.
RenaissanceMan
These guys use PUA as a tool, it is embedded in their personality but it is not the main focus of thier life. These guys can by mPUA level of pick up but the normal mPUA is not one. These guys have varied interests, and are usually more focuesed on being happy or at peace with their lives, being fit and maybe even partaking in parkour or martial arts, owning thier own buisness, but generally being cool. You don't have to be that way, but they are the natural leaders, never adding negative vibe but still remaining powerful and respected. They don't need the validation of others and they make up some of the most powerful men in the world. dont get me wrong you can be a natural and be a RM but its only becuase you are varied in your life and are fufilled so there are no drawbacks to being natural in that circumstance.
This is what I believe the stereotypes to be, and I want every single person on this forum to become a Renaissance Man. I don't care what you think your definitions are I want you to be good with women, you don't need validation, you have many interests and a fufilled life, and pick up is a small part of your life.
Oh and this is just my opinion, I'm not sure that stereotypes are set in stone. and if you disagree feel free to go totally apeshit, I know i would.
So in the short time I've been on this forum I have learned quite bit, on and offline, educating and application and I have found there are different stereotypes that I have found and would like to clear up their definitions, or at least my opinion of the definitions.
Instinctual
These are the stereotypes that naturally occur without PUA ever existing.
AFC
most guys, it means Average Frustrated Chump, these guys represent most of the male population, they might get laid sometimes but in general these guys don't know that much about women, nor do they attract women. These guys are probably what most of this forum still is or used to be. Also if you are a natural or you understand game at all you can tell who is AFC and whose not, its pretty easy actually. And if you don't know these guys whenever you watch TV and see the 'loser' character who can't deal with girls, thats an example of AFC.
Natural
These guys found the company of the fairer sex at a much younger age then most people, or started conversing with women at a young age so they think about girls differently then most guys. They naturally understand how a woman's mind works, how to fulfill them, and how to get laid, but at an unconscious level, so they can't tell people exactly how they did it, nor can they help people do it. They also can't stop so they may become dissatisfied by getting with girls. These are not like jock's or AMOG's, think the charismatic guy who steals girls who have been hanging with all their AFC friends who have been pushed into the LJBF zone.
AMOG
This is the Alpha Male of the group. These guys are usually the jock stereotype and leads his group of friends and is naturally pre-selected. He does not have to have charm or be a natural to be an AMOG, but naturals can be AMOGS. These guys usually assert dominance over the males in the group and is usually the asshole/ douchebag of the group. They are the ones who will get in your face about shit if they feel threatened. They don't have to be physically dominating, but they can be an intellectual or a emotional controller, these can also be AMOG's but the jock stereotype is the the most common. Now most PUA's on this forum will tear me a new one because this definition is slightly different from most of theirs, but stay with me.
PUA
The Pick Up Arts
These are guys who know how to use PUA, the application of emotional control and knowing all the steps to reach the sex location, now this is knowing, not applying necessarily.
PUA In Training
This is what most of the members of the forum is. They have read the game or some form of PUA book and understand the concepts but actually getting girls is not necessarily possible, you have seen the other side and so your thought process has fundamentally changed, even if it is just a slight change. kind of a matrix moment but instead of possibly hallucinogenic drugs its knowledge.
mPUA
The masters, Mystery, Style, Ross Jefferies, Gambit, matador, ect ect these guys have it done, they can get any woman they want, whenever they want. These guys may use routines and gambits, no pun intended, but its embedded in their personality. Unfortunately what works for them will not always work for your average student and some of the programs that the mPUA's sell are not always a good idea to follow, like ross jefferies hypnotism.
parrots
Recently I coined this because of some confusion between these guys and PUA's. Some of the mPUa's teach how to PUA and those who take pick up like a science and copy everything instead of actually coming up with there own stuff they just say stuff they've been tuaght to. Also Tyler Durden is not a PUA he is a parrot and this horrible hypocrisy is an abomination to fight club, where chuck palaniuk's Tyler Durden was the ultimate natural. This is not what you want to be
Natural Asshole
I'm afraid to say this, but there is no other way of describing them, and I use to be one to, and so have a more then a few of our members. This group of guys don't use material or routines most of the time and when they do its usually routines that they make. Their decent at game and are usually okay in most social situations. However their assholes, they dress like assholes, they act like assholes. They are AMOGs created via PUA and they are abominations. Their complete lack of respect for women, and thier need to inject negative vibe whenever they are threatened is quite annoying.
RenaissanceMan
These guys use PUA as a tool, it is embedded in their personality but it is not the main focus of thier life. These guys can by mPUA level of pick up but the normal mPUA is not one. These guys have varied interests, and are usually more focuesed on being happy or at peace with their lives, being fit and maybe even partaking in parkour or martial arts, owning thier own buisness, but generally being cool. You don't have to be that way, but they are the natural leaders, never adding negative vibe but still remaining powerful and respected. They don't need the validation of others and they make up some of the most powerful men in the world. dont get me wrong you can be a natural and be a RM but its only becuase you are varied in your life and are fufilled so there are no drawbacks to being natural in that circumstance.
This is what I believe the stereotypes to be, and I want every single person on this forum to become a Renaissance Man. I don't care what you think your definitions are I want you to be good with women, you don't need validation, you have many interests and a fufilled life, and pick up is a small part of your life.
Oh and this is just my opinion, I'm not sure that stereotypes are set in stone. and if you disagree feel free to go totally apeshit, I know i would.
They helped a lot.