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Post by Contempt on Sept 9, 2010 19:30:05 GMT -5
This question has been bouncing around in my head for a while so I figured I'd get your guys opinions. So far what I've figured out is:
1. Unique approach. Don't walk up to her and start kissing her ass like every other guy. Give her something to think about. 2. Not trying to reiterate what i just said but, try doing opposite pretty much anything a typical AFC would do when talking to her (except something obviously stupid that would piss her off to the point of no return etc.)
Just my thoughts. I'm kinda new so feel free to critique me if you think anything needs changing.
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Post by iffyjiff on Sept 9, 2010 19:54:48 GMT -5
no critique good points. when you game a chick that know shes the shit, your best weapons are heaps of social proof and creating the image that you don't need her. those points usually do it for me when gaming a girl considered omg so hot and in that girls group of friends
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Post by bravo on Sept 14, 2010 20:18:28 GMT -5
Yea he is right man, to get the HOTTEST girl, you absolutely need social proof, without it, I dont care if your as smooth as Casanova or as good looking as fuckin brad pitt, it is not gonna work. I tried gaming a 10 when I had absolutely no social proof in high school, and although I knew she was attracted to me (I made her blush and caught her trying to keep talking to me) She just never would let me escalate. The reason for this is because that girl's value could go down (according to the messed up high school social system) if she is seen hanging out with you. This girl thought I was the shit in class, she laughed at my jokes that were not funny, she turned red when she talked to me, she even smiled when I walked into class, but when that bell rang and we left class.......... that girl did not even know me. Its the way things work in high school, if your not the crazy preppy party guy, your not gonna get the hottest girl, unless of course she goes to a different school.
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Post by RedDog on Sept 15, 2010 14:27:06 GMT -5
I want to expand a little on what Bravo said.
While it certainly come up that the girl doesn't want to escalate in school if you don't have the right social proof, that shouldn't stop you. You just need to 'isolate' her by grabbing her number and then taking it from there. At the end of the day, she may still not want to, but then that's not due to social proof. (Obviously not at the basic flirting/laughing stage, but escalation through other means, she could eventually forget social proof and focus on getting you in the sack. A high enough arousal level can trump everything)
That said, social proof can still do wonders, and it's much easier than having to try to game her behind the scenes.
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Post by Contempt on Sept 15, 2010 20:24:30 GMT -5
Could you ellaborate on this seeming to be "alternate route" RedDog? I'm kinda curious to how it'd work.
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Post by RedDog on Sept 16, 2010 16:55:09 GMT -5
Could you ellaborate on this seeming to be "alternate route" RedDog? I'm kinda curious to how it'd work. I'll try as best I can. Basically my thought process here is that (in Bravo's situation for example) the girl is attracted but fears social repercussions. So instead of trying to focus on gaming the girl in school(In front of all her friends/other people she may think will judge her), Get her number/facebook/whatever, and game her there.(Not that you stop talking to her in person, as that's more effective for the most part. You just want to give her comfort by talking to her in private too). You'd be surprised how attracted she can actually be when she's not worried about her surroundings. I'm using alot of what Gunwitch teaches, and one of the most important things is that girls are just as horny(if not more) than dudes. But because of societies perceptions, they have to tone it down. I don't know if you can relate, but I see this alot. Like when I went on a cruise, I was kinda taken back by how much more flirty and open the girls were. I realized it was because they knew it wouldn't have any social repercussions. In fact, what Bravo said at the end of his post (about the girl going to a different school) is a neat segway into what I'm trying to say. If you go after the hot girl on the side, she'll be more likely to be down for it because it won't affect her socially. Now, if you're trying to hook up with the girl just to say you did it or whatever, this won't work. It's much much easier and non-drama filled if you hook up with her and you guys keep it quiet(Unless she wants to tell people, that is, but then you probably don't have this problem. Sexual escalation is the name of the game here. I'm pretty sure some of that made no sense, but I'm beat from soccer.
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Post by Contempt on Sept 16, 2010 20:27:50 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure some of that made no sense, but I'm beat from soccer. That made alot of sense. I here you on bein beat from soccer man haha. What if you wanted to date her (i mean hell, shes the hottest girl in the school, get all you can from her) Wouldn't you have to go the social proof method because who's dating who is apparantly a huge deal to girls lol.
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Post by RedDog on Sept 16, 2010 22:30:54 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure some of that made no sense, but I'm beat from soccer. That made alot of sense. I here you on bein beat from soccer man haha. What if you wanted to date her (i mean hell, shes the hottest girl in the school, get all you can from her) Wouldn't you have to go the social proof method because who's dating who is apparantly a huge deal to girls lol. I'm not an expert on relationships, but I think if you hooked up with her first, (assuming she liked it, lol), she'd be down for a relationship(if she /really/ liked it, she'd be the one asking for one, but that's another topic) and the social proof disjunction wouldn't really matter. I wouldn't say it's a sure thing, but it'd be much better than the opposite. Yes she may get some people giving her shit for it, but they're just jealous girls(something hopefully she's aware of, and as I said, if she's really into you it won't matter). ---- All that said, social proof is your friend and getting it definitely helps. Regardless of which way you game her, the social proof can come in handy.
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