Calling all PUA's

[perceverance]

Alright, i've spent loads of time thinking about this. My school is very competitive, i remember a PUA saying that most highschools had around 5-10% of people who had decent game. My highschool probably has around 25-30% of people who have decent game. Now, my question is, if all these guys know how to get girls and some of them have more social proof and better looks, what is setting me apart from them? what would set you apart from them? I mean, i dont have much of a chance with the girls that are 7-10 because there are like 5-6 guys that get those girls because they have known each other since elementary and pretty much have so much social proof that its impossible to beat them.

I just want to know how i can go above them and have a spark, or something, that they do not have. they have better looks and have more social proof as i mentioned before, not only that but they have close to as much game as i got and i have no idea what i can do. I'm not degrading myself or anything but im a very realist person and I know how to face the facts. All of you guys that know their shit and know what you would do. Talk to me, please, i am spiraling into disaster.

[darkpwns]

Oh shit! I smell a challenge!

Honestly the best thing I think you can do is better your image for now while building up your social network within the school.

For female companionship there are always cold approaches outside of high school if you really can't get any decent looking girl (however, I doubt it). Doing that should push your game to a level higher than your opponent's as you've got more versatility.

Back in the day I would've just went balls out in this situation...but that's not me anymore so...eh.

Right now, I'd look to the future, as I'm pretty sure you have a year or more left in this school. If you're dealing with chicks outside your school and have them see you there, you get some social proof going, meaning they won't just see you as that "cool guy who gets no girls".

Get a passion, preferably an attractive one. Don't go building model gundams or collecting hug pillows.....that'll give some depth to your character.

If they've got the same amount of game you just have to have more.

[perceverance]

you my friend, have got things going for you. thanks bro. what do you mean by bettering my image though?

[darkpwns]

By working out, trying different clothes to see what you can wear to set you apart from all the high school kids (and I don't mean peacocking. Normal clothes). Get a new hairdo. Make yourself look better looking than before.

[perceverance]

Well, i have a pretty athletic body although i guess i could try changing up clothes. what do you think about hair? is it better long or short?

[fullbang]

hey small advice from me: learn some musical instrument(if you havent yet) , i dont know whats popular at your place, but playing that at party etc. will get u lot of attention and high value. i know that from my self i became party hero last night when i played for just about 20 min
and for hairstyle i would recommend mohawk, not punk but beckham style

[Sye~]

Wtf are you guys talking about?

All you need to get a girl is pants and shoes.
You can be skinny as hell. Attraction isn't a choice.
That stuff just helps better yourself, but its not necessary.

Actually fk it, ignore what I just typed. I'll start again:

WHAT THE FUCK are you talking about?
When you're talking to a girl. There is only You and Her. End story.
There is no competition. No Pick up league. When you're interacting with someone they're in your world. Your beliefs makes the walls of your world.

What is your belief system because you obviously have no walls in your world.

Actually, FUCK that world analogy(dont even know if thats the right term).

There is just You and Her. End story. Attraction isn't a choice. There is no competition. Not even if she has a boyfriend. At that time - it's just You and Her. PERIOD.

[perceverance]

The problem isn't the competition. the problem is her beliefs. if she does have "walls in her world", shes not gonna want to date you no matter what because it will be plain weird if shes dating somebody who nobody in her group knows. Just my thoughts.

[Sye~]

Her beliefs don't matter at this point.
You're falling into their reality. You're not being a confident leader at all. You're trying to become a follower. You're going no where and getting no where like that. You speak as if you're lower class then her, and shes in a whole nother playing field.
When you get with her. She'll introduce you to her friends. Thats how shit works. Trying to be friends with all the boys and shit aint gonna get you in her pants. Social proof is a big help - but you ain't even in College - so chill the hell out.
Her friends don't decide who the hell she sleeps with. She doesn't even get to decide if she gets feelings for you.

Attraction isn't a choice.
Stop being lame and just go for it. Your mindset already though so far has fk'd up your chances with her already.
Just go ballsy for it. You seriously have nothing to lose.

[darkpwns]

Sye, what are you talking about man?

You're spouting random PUA propaganda. Attraction isn't a choice but if there are better options, she'll be taking them first. The one good point I got out of all of that bull is that "you speak as if you're lower class than her, and she's in a whole nother playing field." That was good. The rest was theory.

Trying to be friends with the boys doesn't work to get you laid, but we're talking big picture here. This is about more than just getting girls, this is a life. If you're focusing just on chicks, then you've got a little more introspective thinking to do.

Also, social proof is massively helpful in high school. It is more so in college, but in high school getting a girl without social proof is done within the first few weeks. After that it becomes a hell of a lot harder.

Her friends do decide to an extent who she sleeps with. High school is an extremely high pressure environment. If a girl thinks she'd get looked down on for sleeping with a guy, she won't do it, because it might get out. If they are only neutral thoughts about the guy or just talks about "I don't know him", then it really doesn't matter all that much. But if they don't like you, it is game over.

I get you trying to give black and white terms as motivation and I do believe he has been over thinking this and it has dropped his inner game down levels. But don't give theory.

[Sye~]

Word King. But still, her friends might not content to her dating you- but whatever. Get to the talking, lead her on, fk her. Then shits whatever afterwards.
I believe he cares way too much about how others perceive him. Social proof HELPS, its not necessary. If you have totally uncool friends who get picked on and such - you get labeled with lower value.
Oh well, if you got game you got game. You still have a shot.
If you can even talk to the girl you can get her.

My approach when macking on a chick is that I lock on eye contact and I make it just about us.
I quickly move alone with the girl, but if I can't; well its still just you and me. As long as I'm having fun, its on.

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Side note:
Bodylanguage alone can get people to be more accepting to you. Maybe you should pay attention to yours.
It really really really reallly reallllllllllllllllllllllly helped me. I never understood how people who didn't know me could bust jokes and try to AMOG me. After I got my body language mastered I was never disrespected.
Your body language invites it.

Thats what I figured out... (I always thought it was my size - or that I'm a whitewashed black guy - still am, but now its a positive trait).

[Eastcoast]

Everything king is saying is spot on. Take his advice, sye it does sound like your kinda spouting it right out of the book, no offense though.

Im just gonna throw in my 2cents on your actual question cause this was what worked for me when i felt like a needed a little edge to push me over the top. I bought a bunch of new clothes that i liked, looked good and fit who i was as a person. Now im not saying go splurge on some crazy expensive peacocking clothes. Just go get some clothes you really like and feel good in and that may be just enough to give you the edge.