Being awkward/Using the awkward"ness"

[jester]

Pulling a little bit of personal experience, something I read of Prodigy's, I had an epiphany concerning awkwardness. Before finding the forums, I epitomized awkward. Puberty+AFC= awkward mess. Engaging anyone in an extensive conversation got me word looks and laughs(the bad kind). Speaking fast and with little enunciation blacklist you as hard to understand, and genuinely not fun to be around. I'm not going to explain how to fix this as there are plenty of articles concerning vocality ,posture and confidence in the educational section.
I wanted to make a point that being awkward and using awkwardness are two very different things. That awkward kid in class who stutters and leans forward has no chance of being taken seriously. That cool confident guy who sits on a girl already occupying a chair to make her feel squashed in an uncomfortable position, is creating sexual tension. Getting close through incidental or overt kino can build serious attraction or rapport depending on the situation.
-Your Friendly Neighborhood Jester
P.s. Only use the chair thing if you at least know the girl. Haha

[slyman]

Nice post. I also find that a way to use ackwardness to your advantage is to hold eye contact when nobody else would. the girl almost always does. For example, today in class a girl sitting in front of me turned around to look at the clock, and on her way back around, her eyes caught mine, and held it for approx 3 or 4 seconds. I finally ended it by making a funny face at her . broke the "awkwardness", but kept the sexual tension.

"That awkward kid in class who stutters and leans forward has no chance of being taken seriously."
- and be careful with this term man, I actually do stutter. I'm sure that the "stutterer" you were imagining was the timid, afraid kid who doesn't stutter because he has the illness, but because hes just scared shitless. I've stuttered since I was about 4 or 5 years old. Actually, using all the pua tactics and stuff has helped a ton. I do not strive for fluency, but rather to control my stutter and stutter how i want to - in doing so, it actually produces a great alpha voice and surprisingly, because i've had to work on it so much, its one of my best features in gaming. I'm confident in my stutter and i think that its just another interesting part of me. In order to control my stutter, i use techniques such as breathing from my stomach expanding, not chest, speaking slowly, dragging out the start of the word (you only notice it if your looking for it). It all comes accross as cool, calm, collected. and, sometimes i'll slip up, but I find a very alpha way to deal with this is to admit it and make a joke of it. sorry, i'm sure that none of that related to anyone on the forum but me (if there other stutters here hit me up i'd love to talk to you), but i just thought i'd share how i turned an ackward/afc trait into my advantage.


but good post haha.

-slyman

[jester]

Lol my bad bro. Thx for the contribution though haha. The breathing thing helps alot. I used stutter because of this kid in my AP government class, total AFC. Just mutters really fast. I'll reword
Next time for clarity haha

[slyman]

haha no worries. yeah those kids actually really piss me off, because unlike me, they have the "complete" ability to speak flawlessly, while for me it takes tons of concentration in everday conversation to control my speech. Somehow, I'd say i'm nearly 95% fluent, and surprisingly, nearly 100% fluent w/ chicks (always have been for some reason...stuttering is weird in the sense that different situations/people altar your speech).

[Contempt]

This is just my opinion but, the "good" awkwardness you mentioned here is a great way to create sexual tension. I cant remember where i read it (i'm going to quote it anyways) but, "embrace the uncomfortable". act like its totally normal, and use it to you advantage. Something i often do is kiss girls on the hand, in a totally dead serious manner. For example, you could unexpectedly get on one knee with her, take her hand, kiss it, and ask her to marry you. Keep in mind for this to work you have to keep a completely serious straight face the whole time, like your being serious. She will probably giggle alot and look around, but if you act alpha enough about it and act like its normal, and REFUSE to let go of her hand or get up until she responds, it will make her feel like, well shit, i dunno how it makes them feel, but it creates ton of sexual tension and works like a charm. Of course as soon as she responds, break the seriousness and laugh and go back to joking around. If she agrees to marry you, well then, your "married". If she says no say, "fine, i wouldnt have married you anyways". Also, when girls say they're having a bad hairday or something, you can grab their hand, look the dead in the eyes with a completely serious expression your face, cup their hand gently in yours, kiss it, and tell them "your hair looks fucking beautiful, [name]" in the most overly serious, romantic way possible. Over do it x 1,000,000. It works.

This is just a what i do and what i think works, feel free to respond with hate and loathing.

-Contempt.

P. S. Ya dont always have to know the girl to sit on their lap

[slyman]

how have girls responded to this? haha did u get any results? this sounds incredibly alpha, but holy shit man tough to pull off. gotta get the balls to try that.

[Contempt]

yep. worked like a charm for me everytime. yeah, you definitly have to practice doing other crazy stuff before you try that. But i had this girl who sat next to me in spanish, her and i just talked for a while and she it wasnt really going anywhere, anyways, one day i pulled that exact bad hairday thing on her. Her and i were in a group project with two other girls, and she literately told the other girls to go away and work on some other part of the project because she wanted to work with me.

It works, if you pull it off right. You have to commit 100% and be 100% alpha about it, anything less will greatly detract from it. I do this on a regular basis with girls now. i'm trying to come up with more stuff like it, pushing girls limits and making them feel awkward while you are totally calm and alpha (i cant think of the word for it) seems to work amazingly. This works on a concept sorta like doing crazy stuff with a girl. Like hiding in the mens or womens restroom or making out in the back of a drivers ed car with the teacher in the front or something.

[RMO]

you should be 100% alpha all the time. this will do more for your game then any other tactic.

I'm the one who brought up the sexual tension eye contact, the thing that jester's referencing But since any one can feel that if they hold eye contact I'm not going to copyright that.

I cannot stress enough that being confident, touching, and not giving a shit will be the most useful part of your game.

Jeez man, lets get some karmic rebalance in this bitch, you sound half knowledgeable.

[perceverance]

being alpha seems like you are being unreactive. im not saying dont be alpha, im saying that im confused with the term. Alphas walk slow, talk slow, and do most of what they do slow. just my opinion

[RMO]

they slow down their actions to accentuate their actions, this causes people to listen to them carefully and respect them more. I think alpha male, the leader, the guy who doest give a shit and leads the interaction. They find the zen of cool relatively early in life.

[jester]

Yeah you're welcome for the credit Prodo! The alpha male, to me, takes what he wants when he wants. I just picture a silverback gorilla walking up to a lesser male and taking his Kesha cd, Or whatever gorillas cares about, with little concern for the subservient punk. Unless it's a girl gorilla. He picks the female up drags her to the nearest tree and goes "ape" shit. Pun definitely intended

[perceverance]

i've seen the zen of cool in many of your posts, what book is that from dude?

[RMO]

Revelation.

[perceverance]

Thanks man, was that book written by your dad?

[RMO]

yes sir