Social Proof

[Adam]

Or you can pretty much say screw the popular crew and stop trying so hard. Personally i hang out with the second teir popular kids cause i like em alot better. I dunno about your school but popular kids are pretty flake imo and i don't really get them. Anyhow if you really want the social proof that bdaly just genuily be interested in them. If you occasionally hang with them be the source of good emotions show them you are a cool guy (which you already are). Making popular friends is the same as making regular friends its just that you've put these people on a pedestal don't do that i've been there and back.

P.S join a sports team or something popular guys are usually into that stuff

[traindom]

I don't like the popular crowd as much either. I try to just see a person as they are; a person. I don't see them as part of a higher collective. I'll just talk with anybody and keep mostly to myself. You could always just date a girl from another school. I've seen it work pretty often in my school.

[perceverance]

Guys, my main goal is: to be at the top of the school. I want to be in the elite. The best. I am going to be that guy that everyone looks at and thinks: "how does he do it?". I want the social proof, the girls, the bro's, the parties, everything. I cant settle for less with all the knowledge that is available to me in order to climb up the social ladder.

And if you guys could help me get there, i would love it.

[Adam]

Dude thats your problem right there. You see these people as elite and thats the only reason you wanna hang with them.

Let's say you do get into their group. You don't genuinly like any of these people so your just fucking fake. You will just be hanging out with people who are 'cool' to be seen as 'cool' but dude that is total AFC. You care too much about what others think about you. There is a line between social proof and selling your sole to the highschool rat race for popularity

It seems like you think once you get into their group you'll be treated like royalty but unfortunately thats not how it works bro. You hold these people in way to high regard.

[perceverance]

ALL of the people in the group get treated like fucking royalty by the rest of the school. nobody fucks with them, everybody wants to talk to them, everyone wants to be friends with them. Its fucking bullshit and I HAVE to be a part of it as well. They get the chicks, the respect, and the love. im not gonna stand by and settle for being a nobody. I'm need to get in that group and eventually become the leader of those kids.

[sleepy]

lol holy shit, what school do you go to?

[Nick]

Wow perceverance, you are really something else...

That is the WORST mindset I've ever seen. The very first problem I see is that you're making an excuse as to why no one likes you. You're setting this barrier for yourself so that you can't be cool until you get over the barrier. You think everything will magically get better after you join this "elite" group(and not before), and that's a bunch of bullshit. You're making excuses. The only way to truly improve is to already see yourself as elite and make THEM an addition to YOUR life, not the other way around (that is if you even still give a fuck about them).

Secondly, you're ignorant. You see these elite guys as fucking kings. They're not. Just try fucking with one of them, you'll see what they turn into. You're blind to all their imperfections. You need to treat your social life the same as you treat your women. You have oneitis with these guys right now. With chicks, you have to start looking at their imperfections to keep yourself in line and out of oneitis. It's the same with guy friends. Try having actual fun out with some cool friends and see if you really want those stuck up "elites".

im not gonna stand by and settle for being a nobody.

You see yourself as a "nobody" just because your not in the "elite" group. You think that once you get in the elite group, you'll magically become loved and treated royally. That's fucking STUPID. Stop giving a shit what everyone else thinks about you and focus on yourself. No one else matters. Especially not a bunch of stuck up do-nothings.

If you can't even get in the group, how do you plan on "leading" them? Do you even know what they do outside of school? Have you ever even seen them?

So, basically... Focus on yourself. Focus on fun. Fuck the rest.

[perceverance]

^ i appreciate that man, i really do. But you misinterpreted what i said. I AM and always will be better at gaming chicks than those guys. The only difference between me and them is that they have social proof and i dont. its proven, when i initiate a conversation with a girl in that group, i get shut down immediately because i dont have social proof. I dont see myself as a nobody, but other people see me as a nobody because they think that if you are not in that group, you are a nobody. this is not my mindset, im just adapting to my surroundings and understanding how the people are my school think. im not gonna joke around dude: there is a group of kids who are so fucking tired of not getting chicks that they have one bridge and they are all trying to get in that group. they are idiots though because i've hung out with them a few times and they BRAG about TALKING to girls. I am waaaaaay better at gaming than the kids in this group and that is why im pissed off, my only barrier is the social proof, not because i want it to be a barrier, because trust me, i've tried talking to the girls in that group before and it doesn't work it. the solution i found would be to make these guys my new social group, then i would have social proof and since my ability's are superior to those of these guys, the chicks would be all over my dick.

[Eastcoast]

wow so much awful advice in this thread its a tad REDICALUS

im gonna write an article all about this in a bit dude cause i dont really wanna explain it all over so bare with me until i get that out. But i do empathize with you, it took me a while to figure out.

And whoever is saying this "have one friend and your in, CLEARLY is not in the popular group nor do they understand the dynamics going on.

Is all this social stuff stupid? without a doubt, but theres not point in wasting your time complaining about it. Its the way it is so work it to your advantage as much as possible

[perceverance]

alright, post a link to the article in here when you post it because i might forget to look for it.

[Eastcoast]

Mar 27, 2011 17:30:01 GMT -5 perceverance said:

alright, post a link to the article in here when you post it because i might forget to look for it.

haha fuck you, you can find it

[perceverance]

sick bro. i was just asking for a favor...

[auroturtle]

perceverance suck my bawls

[perceverance]

This isn't the amog challenge thread so gtfo with your shitty amoging attempts.

[Adam]

Mar 27, 2011 17:19:20 GMT -5 Eastcoast said:

And whoever is saying this "have one friend and your in, CLEARLY is not in the popular group nor do they understand the dynamics going on.

When i said that i meant that if you have one popular friend they will introduce you to their popular friends and say how much of a fun and awsome guy you are. Therefore the group will be more willing to accept you. Whenever I go to a new place I use this all the time all you need is a bridge.

Oh yeah if perceverance if the people you game care so much about 'social proof' then thats a tad shallow on their part. Solution: game other girls. And also social proof doesn't make or break your game it just helps. Please don't tell me you wanna run the rat race of popularity for girls you don't even like.

Pretty much bolt said it all. I hope you become "popular" so you can see that its not the fairy tale you think it will be.

Also why all the hate guys.