What A Cold World We Live In

[Grape]

I just realized half the kids in my school would fit in the "AFC" section as where the other half would fit in the "Socially talented" section.
Let me tell you something: The AFC's are out to get you.
They get more emotional.
They get more insecure.
They will take out as much of their stress as they can on you if you let them.
They will try to bring you down to their level just so they can feel better about themselves for an entire 5 minutes.

Realizing this fact, I started observing a lot of interactions in my school.
I realized that a LOT of people try to screw up people's days.
I felt sick to my stomach.

Funny thing is, bad feelings will get to you sooner or later if you hang with the wrong crowd. Befriend the people who focus on being fun and telling stories.

Avoid people who talk obsessively over drama, try to start drama, want to be a part of drama, etc.
Avoid this shit. It's annoying and stupid.

The thing that really made me wince was how so many kids in my school are boring. The fun leading AMOGs and the crazy energetic girls are all separated into different clicks and groups.

So what has this been telling me?
That A LOT of people play this game of socializing to boost their own egos and nothing more. They will spit on me when they get the chance and they will crush me completely.
I need to show value continuously to those who are insecure and keep them tamed.
I need to accept the fact that I myself don't have the desire or will to change these people and help them better themselves.
I need to look down at these people and keep alert for the backstabbings they plan for me.

This is the truth. The cold hard truth. Accept it and use it to your own advantage.
- Grape

[Andrew]

However, I dont think its quite as black and white as you say. I think that there are the two categories of people you say, but different people have different amounts of each in them.

[Grape]

Exactly. Avoid the bad, attract the good.

[nine]

I still hold that almost every person (barring rapists, terrorists, etc.) are at the same value as me. When you take into account that we're not that much different from the people we value, and we could probably model ourselves after them you see that you're basically just as 'valuable'. Think of Julius Caeser, do you really believe that with some good coaching and a drive you couldn't attain that as well?

Call me naive or whatever, but I believe that those people you refer to, who'll drag you down, maybe they just need a lift up.

NIne

[enigma]

there are only 10 kinds of people in this world...those who understand binary and those who don't

but on a more serious note, I always try to avoid drama and my social circle tends to have some from time to time which is slightly annoying. I just ignore it and don't get involved.

[sylar]

Grape speaks the truth.

Most AFCs are TOXIC. They constantly try to leech value off of other people to bring them down to their level in an attempt to impress their peer group (other AFCs). What they don't realize is that it is completely transparent to everyone else.

During some of my worst years, this completely described me. I might as well have changed my name to Approval Seeking Value-Leecher.

The few AFCs that deserve respect are the ones that have the determination to change. Learning about PU and social dynamics isn't just about how to bring pleasure to yourself - it's also about how to make other people feel comfortable and happy around you, and that deserves respect.

Alright, great, so let's just introduce everyone to the PUA community and be done with it.

Not so fast.

You see, some of these people, in fact, probably MOST of these people are so toxic with their negativity and insecurities that they will completely dismiss and reject the PUA community. Some of the bigger assholes may even try to devalue and the people in it as well (FTR, I have no personal experience with this, but people like Tyler Durden have gone over this extensively).

SOLUTION: Fun, value, and/or an overall good vibe is the ultimate litmus test. Those that reject it and try to bring you down are hopeless AFCs whose change can only come from within. Those that embrace it are the people you want in your life, or at least AFCs with some hope

Sylar

[sylar]

Nov 11, 2008 20:56:12 GMT -5 nine said:

I still hold that almost every person (barring rapists, terrorists, etc.) are at the same value as me. When you take into account that we're not that much different from the people we value, and we could probably model ourselves after them you see that you're basically just as 'valuable'. Think of Julius Caeser, do you really believe that with some good coaching and a drive you couldn't attain that as well?

Call me naive or whatever, but I believe that those people you refer to, who'll drag you down, maybe they just need a lift up.

NIne

I still believe this to an extent, but the whole point of value is that it is subjective, in our case, we want to display traits that are valuable to women.

PU is more about communicating value than gaining value anyways.

[Andrew]

When I started and even to an extent now, even if I have nothing after school or im not hanging with a chick or whatever Its stil important to communicate that you have the value anyway.

For me, value is in the top three most important things in pickup, especially in High School