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Post by infamous93 on Jun 2, 2011 22:47:25 GMT -5
If you want to stand out form other men learn to become really alpha, be the center of attention.
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Post by DanZy on Jun 2, 2011 22:50:28 GMT -5
^ what if i wanna be at the top of the foodchain though Stop being obsessed with this. Yes everyone wants to be popular but stop making it your life's mission to do so. Half your threads have been something like this, complaining about your situation. Just be confident, be yourself, workout, catch up on sleep, whatever! Like nick said: "your self pity is fucking annoying"
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Post by perceverance on Jun 2, 2011 22:53:54 GMT -5
its not self pity. its motivation to become better and better. if you cant handle my shit, gtfo of the forum bro. for the rest of you guys that actually help me, i cant thank you enough. these threads dont mean im not happy with the abilitys i have currently, it means im trying to get better. take a look at my name, its what im doing.
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Post by jmac on Jun 2, 2011 23:01:26 GMT -5
Imma tell you right now, no matter what anyone says looks help A TON. Plain and simple, who doesn't want to be hooking up with the best looking person if you are a girl or guy? But even a lot of girls say, personality means a lot to them. As long as you can look your best and BE YOUR FUCKING SELF without sketching out about some other guy who looks better than you scooping up every girl then you'll be fine. If I were you I'd drop the whole "pickup" mindset and just think of it as you living your life and making the most out of it, and if that life happens to include getting lots of hot chicks then good. Just keep your confidence up and stop thinking the world is gonna end because more and more people supposedly have confidence. Which I disagree with your post because I haven't seen a change in jack-shit. Not trying to argue with you but it seems that maybe you might not be doing good right now so you could be putting blame on other reasons than yourself, just consider that.
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Post by perceverance on Jun 2, 2011 23:13:58 GMT -5
^ agree with you 100% but i think that you guys got the wrong perspective of my post. my motivation to make this thread was that in the years ive been in highschool, theres a group of guys who are DOMINATING the school. now, usually i wouldnt care but these guys are taking up ALL the above average to hot chicks. not only that but every time im in a class with them, they always manage to have the teacher on their cock and be the center of attention. its like 10 dudes. i always thought, if ya cant beat them, join them right? wrong. they dont think im good enough for their piece of shit group.
thats the motive. but dont mistake that shit for my mentality. im just trying to become better and better. people mistake this for me not thinking im good enough. im good enough alright and im having a great fuckin time but that doesnt mean im gonna lose my drive to get better.
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Post by Nick on Jun 2, 2011 23:48:26 GMT -5
I hope you know I'm legitimately trying to help... I'm not just calling you out.
You don't have to be IN the popular group to dominate a class. I have a good friend that is just straight up alpha but is completely separate from the popular guys. He does random shit in class, he speaks up in class, he makes jokes during class, and he just makes himself known. None of this requires you to be friends with anybody.
You have to be open minded. Don't think higher or lower of the popular group. Just accept them for how they are. Don't try to get in their group or try to avoid it. Just BE. Do whatever you want whenever you want. Don't avoid doing something on your mind just because it might hurt your "rep". If you think it, do it. It's hard, I know, but you have to. STOP CARING.
What do you mean by "drive to get BETTER"? What do you mean by better? More popular...? Cuz that's all your talking about, and popularity is SHIT. Self-improvement is great, but if popularity is your goal than you will never achieve it.
Pertaining to getting women... Looks do matter if a girl is pondering the two of you while you stand there like jackasses. But if you're escalating with her while the other guy isn't... she doesn't have a choice but to pick you. Take ACTION. When it comes down to it, nothing matters but the actions you take.
P.S. It doesn't sound like you're getting any better when EVERY POST is still the SAME ISSUE. You've never advanced any. If you have, than ask something else... more specific. Quit denying everyone's advice and just do something. Have you ever even TRIED doing some of the things? You've apparently got nothing else better to do... except complain. You can't KNOW unless you TRY. Make a damn mistake, dude.
Go out there and stop giving a shit about what everyone thinks about you. Be you and have fun.
And if you dismiss this post, than I'm done with you. I WANT to help, but you're not letting me or anybody for that matter.
I want you to speak up during class. If something comes to your head - SAY IT. I don't care how stupid it sounds. If everyone stares at you like a dumbass than GOOD, at least you KNOW something now. Knowledge is one thing, applying it is something else. Learning "alpha-ness" from articles is only going to get you so far... you're just going to have to be loud during class and make an ass of yourself if you have to. Don't make excuses like "I already am...", because you're not. If those 10 guys are still dominating the class, than you're NOT. Speak up MORE than the guy who dominates the class, that's your only objective. He's most likely going to verbally throw shit at you according to the position it seems like you're in, but you're just going to have to not give a shit. Laugh at him. Just do whatever the hell you want.
Peace <3
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Post by Adam on Jun 3, 2011 0:00:12 GMT -5
Looks don't really matter in a natural sense iys more about swag. Whenever i ask a girl about what they look for in a guy they almost never say looks they say style. So as long as your swag is in check you can never be ugly.
On a side note Tyler from RSD was talking about how if a guy is better looking than you all it takes is to beat him by 1% personality wise to get the girl. Tyler is definatly not the most attractive guy so i think i can taje his word for it. But its up to you.
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Post by def454 on Jun 3, 2011 0:01:44 GMT -5
Yo i wasnt top of the foodchain in high school either, branch out beyond it. its very hard to change the way people think of you in high school and frankly when i stopped caring, my standing improved somewhat, but at that point i was so indifferent to high school that i wasnt giving any of them the time of day.
secondly ur perserverence attitude is you making yourself a martyr. youre making yourself out to be this awesome guy, who has honed his skills so masterfully, but to no avail as evil cutie-snatching hunks are scooping up all the hotties for themselves. But fear not, behind the keyboard lies a PUA, percerverance, who will not give up so easily. He will not let the world be run by high school assholes who are stealing up all his women. Will he stand up finally attract them for himself? No, not yet, first he needs to write 3 more posts about it, then read 2 more ebooks, then he'll be good to go- to save the world for PUAs, once and for all...
I'm telling you bro, i used to pride myself so hard on resilience and perseverance (its spelled with an S, bro) i would stay up til late putting off my workouts until 1 in the morning just to be like- "oh yeah, i finally worked out, i overcame my baser isntincts which told me to put it off all day, i'm so in control." i didn't realize this but i was doing it.
similarly, you are self-sabotaging just to be like- "This world is unjust, and yet i am undeterred, i will prevail!"
drop the bullshit.
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Post by perceverance on Jun 3, 2011 0:05:39 GMT -5
HB Nick: by my drive of getting better i mean that i want to become a renaissance man. i want to have all my shit in order and have my life set straight. your right, im not there yet. that is why i post questions asking for help regarding my current situation. dont mistake questions for complaints. i dont need anyones sympathy, im simply asking for help if any of you can supply it.
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Post by perceverance on Jun 3, 2011 0:10:11 GMT -5
def454: read what i said to HB Nick, you got the wrong perspective of my mentality. jeeeesuus christ
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Post by Adam on Jun 3, 2011 0:17:08 GMT -5
Ow you guys are kinda being harsh on the guy. I know hes posted like three of these topics but bashing him won't help (your turning into savant) even if there is some knowlege. I too am at perceverance's level (with a little less of the limiting beliefs) I cant wrap my head around the whole not caring without being apathic or lazy (i went through both of these) You know what FUCK IT i just gotta suck it up by sunday ill have my approaches done.
P.S sorry this kinda went off topic turned my post turned from a question to a battle speech
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Post by def454 on Jun 3, 2011 0:24:55 GMT -5
ok so as all of you know, pickup has expanded. lots of people know about it and it is slowly becoming something normal. everyday i see more dudes with the 'i dont give a fuck mindset'. everyday i see more guys who know what is attractive to girls and act that way. everyday the pickup lifestyle is becoming more and more common. it is not as exciting to chicks anymore. it is starting to piss me off that now the only thing that makes me unique, that makes me stand out to girls, is becoming more and more common. this deep and complete confidence that i have that is so attractive to women is losing its value bit by bit everyday because more men are starting to develop it. men with better looks, more money, more social value perhaps. so i ask you: in a system that is slowly becoming more common. what can we do now to make us unique and more attractive? you can be average looking with supreme game but everyday there are more better looking guys with supreme confidence as well. pickup is evolving and we need to come up with new ways to stand out. pickup theorys and mindsets are becoming public now and there is more competition. lets evolve. you literally did not ask for any help on how YOU can improve, you only asked us to somehow come up with a way that PICKUP can improve. this is the problem with your mindset, and the way you're using the forum. Be as down on yourself as you want, be as bad at getting girls as you want, come here and post a question about it and I WILL HELP YOU, but do not come on the forum and post things like this that cannot possibly help anyone.
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Post by DanZy on Jun 3, 2011 10:06:34 GMT -5
^EXACTLY! You're complaining "aw man I used to be unique and now all these guys are...." honestly who gives a fuck about what other guys are doing? You should care about what you're doing. that's self-pity right there! Not motivation. Don't say "I used to be..." that's not you now, live in the present and forget about past bullshit. Look I'm guessing you're not going to get to the top of the high school food chain but being at the top means nothing! High schools over in such a short time that it's a pointless amount of effort for so little gain. Have fun and if you're nearly done with school concentrate on your studies. Enjoy your life dude without worrying. About those guys, you can beat them. Fuck man be honest with them and stand up for yourself. Don't let them push you around
Adam yes we're not being harsh but honest. There's no point in posting 3 times and not fixing it. Good for you though bro, keep approaching
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Post by jmac on Jun 3, 2011 14:22:12 GMT -5
They are right even though some of the posts might seem more harsh than others. You need to stop thinking of high school as FOOD CHAIN or whatever else, drop any stupid pickup mindset that is holding you back like "alpha-ing" them because trust me, its fucking stupid. I will be honest with you, even though some people on here believe that since they "mastered the game" they will out-do a great looking popular guy because of their "game". That isn't true in all cases. As much as the reality sucks, popularity and looks mean a lot in high school. Girls are always trying to be better than one another and what is the best way to keep your image? Go out with the "hottest most popular guy" in school, now I'm not saying all girls are shallow or anything but it is true for some girls. I'm not trying to be cocky but in your "food chain" of high school me and my friends are at the top and now that I think about it, it has made my life so much easier with everything. Like you said, teachers obviously know who's popular and I get away with a lot of shit because my teachers like me and I can admit it. It does suck that there are social problems like these because even though it benefits me, don't think for a second that I don't feel bad for the kid sitting alone at lunch who has his glasses and books right next to him. But that's the way it is and if you want to make everything easier you don't have to join them but it would help to gain their respect in a more natural way rather than "out-alpha-ing" them.
I'll give you an example of a kid in my homeroom and a class, now I am not saying this is you so don't be offended, it's only an example that reminds me of this whole thing.
This kid Christian is kinda short, very scrawny, his looks are a little under average, has glasses and has this extreme confidence almost to a point of cockiness. At the beginning of the year when I came to this school and already knew all the "popular kids" he saw I was friends with all them and quickly becoming on of the top popular kids. I would hear kids talk shit about him because he's the waterboy for varsity basketball or just how he is a goof and thinks he is the man. But I felt bad for him because he seemed more of an outcast and however many of you guys think I am a douchebag (partly true) I still feel bad and care about others just like everyone should, so I would talk to him and say hi. But then he would still be seeming to prove himself to me and if I was walking with him to the class we have together he would talk shit about other people and since a lot of kids see me as one of the "badasses" in the school he would always try and seem all tough and hardcore around me. It got so fucking annoying and now I can't stand him.
My whole point in telling you about this kid is that so many kids think that to become "popular" you need to either be a huge jerk or complete badass and you have to be like everyone else in the group. NO everyone has their own personality and if you are a down to earth kid who is cool to be around and doesn't try to impress everyone else by doing something they think is "cool" then you'll do fine. Don't take anything on this site to heart, just consider what you read and hopefully you can learn a bit but stick to YOURSELF. If you gain the respect of those 10 guys you talk about then you don't even need to "join" them but if you gain the respect girls will think higher of you if your considered to be more of a "nerdier kid". I am not judging you it's just an example. But anyways dude I hope in some way I could have helped you rather than me just typing for no reason but in no way was I trying to be cocky or anything in this reply. I just wanted to give you an example from my life so hopefully you drop all your worries and go back to being YOU.
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Post by Season on Jun 3, 2011 16:34:13 GMT -5
AMOG them all
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