Imagine Sleeping Only 3 Hours a Day....

[peachy]

Incase some of you didn't know, there are different patterns of sleep one can follow, not just your typical 6-10 hours every night (monophasic). These other cycles are called Polyphasic.

I am going to experiment with the Uberman Cycle, which is a 15-30 minute nap every 4 hours. So basically, 6 short naps per 24 hours. I am posting this to see if anyone is interested in making the transition from a Monophasic cycle to a Polyphasic one. Now is the perfect time to do so because it is summer my friends.

This is a huge change for me, because (I'll be honest) I have shit discipline, especially sleep discipline. Half the time, alarm clocks don't wake me up.... I plan on achieving a fully disciplined lifestyle by the end of the summer. Meaning, studying for tests, no procrastinating, trying my hardest in all aspects of my life, etc.

If anyone wants to join me on this journey, I will be updating this thread with my results and whatnot. Be warned: this is not an easy task and you will be a zombie for almost 2 weeks after making the transition. This post is in academics because with all this extra time, you can get so much damn work accomplished.

I'd be glad to answer any questions and will give tips to those daring enough to join me on this adventure! ;D

Incase anyone's interested, here are the 5 major sleeping cycles:
www.highexistence.com/alternate-sleep-cycles/

[canadiankid]

It doesn't actually work... Just so your aware. Also, your body needs the REM or deep sleep cycle in order to learn new things because this is when it moves from conscious to unconscious. Just my 2 cents, there is scientific research to back it up

[Adam]

I think prodigy and some other people on the forum tried this. Long story short they said it was shit and not to even bother

[Sloth]

this is called 'junk' sleep. It's just not as good as regular sleep that your body is used to. This is the dumbest way to get discipline IMO.

[Contempt]

best way to get discipline = try to stop masturbating.

[RMO]

uberman sleep is complety bogus. I tried it for a month and almost became an insomniac. If you dont trust me, the airforce tried the same experiment and it didnt work.

Also REM is not deep sleep, its the first stage of five levels. Your body sleeps in cycles but it takes fifty minutes of sound sleep to go into it, then it lasts ninety minutes, then it cycles back over, the level of sleep each time is dropped, thats why sleeping longer then eight hours isnt beneficial.



To get disicpline normalize your sleeping and meditate. By normalizing I mean go to bed and get up at the same time EVERY DAY. After a month or so your biological clock will get you up and make you really tired at those times.

I would recommend getting seven to eight hours of sleep, getting lots of sun, eating healthy, drinking lots of water, and taking a thirty to forty five minute nap in midday to take advantage of the drop in body temprature


I tried it becuase of the extra time gain, but it doest work and its potential dangerous. If you want more time, shoot for more focus, so meditate and try something like the pomodairo technique. Also if you ever want to work out you dont get enough rest to heal correctly using other techniques.

I'll be sure to check your links and do some more research, but the research ive done and my personal experiment discourage me from supporting other people trying it.

[canadiankid]

Shit ya your right, REM comes after the four stages of non rem.

Btw if you have iPhone or iPod touch, I HIGHLY recommend the sleep cycles app. You awake up feeling so refreshed, and that helps me, not being a morning person, get going and be productive a lot easier.

[Adam]

I've got that app and it's made waking up so much more awsome

[RMO]

Jun 18, 2011 20:21:30 GMT -5 canadiankid said:

Shit ya your right, REM comes after the four stages of non rem.

Well the thing about polyphasic sleep is it trains your body to go straight into REM as soon as you fall asleep. But you need all the other parts of sleeping for more then just your brain. Sure you need REM to help memories, but you need to REST! Thats why your body temperature flucates that way, because we REST and then USE UP our energy, its cyclical.

[canadiankid]

Oh I see I didn't realize that. Either way your skipping crucial shit

[peachy]

I know what most of you are saying. But the way it's 'supposed' to work is that you deprive your body of sleep so much that it will begin to instantly go into REM when you take a nap. REM is the most important part of sleep.

This may not have worked for the few who tried, and many other people, but it has worked for some. Here's the blog that inspired me. This man did it for 6 months, and switched back only because his family was on a monophasic pattern.

www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep/

Prodigy, I've never heard all that about sleep. If it is true, then these sleep cycles would not work for ANYONE. I am going to start waking up at 6-7am for now (like you recommended), and maybe in a week after more research I will start the Uberman cycle.

Thanks for the replys.

[infamous93]

uhhh dude I don't think its a good Idea to deprive yourself of sleep at all expecailly at this age when you are growing.

They say something like teenagers need at least 9 hours of sleep a day or something

[Nick]

Infamous makes a point. The general rule is that you aren't stabilized until you're like 25. Then again, babies naturally sleep polyphasically...

Also, I just read his ENTIRE sleep log, day by day. It was very interesting and DOES look like it was completely effective. My main concerns was that the guy eventually switched back because of the way it negatively affected his lifestyle and that the dude was straight up vegan. I honestly believe the healthy diet was one of the reasons he succeeded in the first place. I could switch to the same, healthy diet, sure... but that would be a little tough to do, too.

I would do it... but I currently waste enough time as it is. I don't have a job that I can do from home and I'll also have to go to school soon. There's no way I'll be able to pop 20 minute uninterruped nap in during school hours.

Maybe when I'm older.

[RMO]

If its proven to work I dont think it will ever convert me to it, mostly because of exercise, I would rather be healthy and sleep normally and live a long time then the short term gains from polyphasic sleep. Also I understand that babies are polyphasic, but they should sleep LONGER then eight hours a day, so theres that

I'm interested if you have the stones to go through with it for the two week minimum, post your progress, and make sure to stay healthy.

heres a similar method to getting on the uberman cycle
spamayl.blogspot.com/2010/11/rules.html

the guy who ran the blog stopped becuase he couldnt go the entire 2 weeks, lots of slef-discipline.

[amarok]

Jun 19, 2011 10:44:06 GMT -5 peachy said:

I know what most of you are saying. But the way it's 'supposed' to work is that you deprive your body of sleep so much that it will begin to instantly go into REM when you take a nap. REM is the most important part of sleep.

Prodigy, I've never heard all that about sleep.

No offense meant man, but have you /ever/ taken a health class, or a psychology class? I've never known someone NOT to know the basic sleep cycle. And no, REM is NOT the most important part of sleep overall. NREM, the delta wave sleeping patterns, rejuvenate your body and renew energy levels, if i'm correct. Sure, REM is important for memories, understanding and dreams, but not for overall health, which is the most important factor.