The only way to reach true happiness: Ignorance?

[Nick]

Is ignorance the only way to reach happiness?

I admit it. I can't find it right now. I am insanely bored with life right now. Nothing really excites me anymore.

There is no purpose to life. There is no reason to live. Nothing has meaning. Nothing has purpose. We ARE. Life IS. There is nothing more. There is no God. The only love you will ever feel is from yourself.

Now that that's out of the way, you understand how I think. The point I'm trying to make in this post is: The people who claim they feel true happiness are usually ignorant. Like the people who say they've "found God" or have "given their life to god"... Maybe it's not just a claim. Maybe they have found happiness. Either way, it's because of ignorance.

Another thing that has stuck with me throughout the years: The movie The Pursuit of Happyness. It mentions how the Declaration mentions that all men deserve "Life, Liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness". Is that implying that there is no happiness and only pursuit?

Something else that has stuck with me is the book 1984. If you haven't read it than you should. It's one of the best books I've read. It's about a guy who is somewhat separate from the rest of society. Everyone is completely "happy", but only because they're kept ignorant because of the government. The main character is not ignorant and is struggling through life. In the end, he finally accepts ignorance to be happy.

I don't really know what else to say. I'm just bored with life. I'm not considering suicide or any of that bullshit. I just can't find excitement. And since there is no point to life, having fun is about the only thing to do. Yet you can't survive in this world by only having fun... you have to make money, get a job, a family, and all that... Yet there's really no point except to stay alive. Yet, even staying alive is pointless...

/rant

[jmac]

Honestly bro, I think this is just a stupid fucking post because you are bored with your life, as you have stated. Obviously there are tons of happy people in the world, I am happy, but there will always be setbacks and obstacles to overcome. True ignorance would be thinking "Wow, I have a family that loves me and more friends than I can ask for. But I can't be happy because there is war in Africa." Because you are ignoring all the love you are getting over something that you really have no control over and might not concern you at all. And I am not some huge religious guy or anything but you really can't say that there isn't a god, it will always be a question amongst everyone.

There are already plenty of kids on this site who are confused as fuck about their life and girls and what-not, bitching about your life not being exciting and telling them that there is no true happiness especially for any one of them suffering from depression or also lacking happiness is just showing YOUR IGNORANCE. Man the fuck up and take control of your life, nobody is going to make it exciting for you.

[RMO]

Oh damn it, this is some serious nihilist bullshit my friend. Before I even mention happiness you need to understand what the constitution and what 1984 is talking about.

Life, Liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness

That is everyman is born with certain rights you can't take away, guarantees that you are allowed to live, that you will have liberty, and that you can find your happiness, its not a guarantee you will find it, but you are guaranteed the chance to find happiness.

1984
the happiness is directly a result of ignorance, but only because they are a brainwashed people. A better book to compare dystopia and happiness is a brave new world by aldous huxley, has 1984 is not about happiness its about totalitarianism and the problems it has.

Happiness is not a goal, it is a state of mind, and how you receive it is up to you. I am happy when i am constantly doing things, having new experiences, enjoying living, the process of living. One way I got there was here:

highschoolpuas.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=contests&action=display&thread=4232

but man, there is no point to life, and even if there was a diety it wouldn't be responsible for your happiness anyway, the point is you find your own happiness inside, its an emotion, and it is your responsibility. It has nothing to do with ignorance and such a sheep mentality is fucking dangerous.

Couldn't say it better myself.

Aug 10, 2011 18:51:08 GMT -5 @jmac said:

There are already plenty of kids on this site who are confused as fuck about their life and girls and what-not, bitching about your life not being exciting and telling them that there is no true happiness especially for any one of them suffering from depression or also lacking happiness is just showing YOUR IGNORANCE. Man the fuck up and take control of your life, nobody is going to make it exciting for you.

[canadiankid]

I can relate to what your saying Nick. I think the onus is on you to pursue that happiness to find it. You can't just sit back and wait for it, your not entitled to happiness and excitement. You've got to be proactive in your life!

[Amb1valence]

Well Nick here's the way I see it. Yeah maybe there is no point to life. Maybe there is no god. I may or may not have fucked your mom last night. But does there have to be a purpose to life? I mean who said so? Does that make you mad? Because it shouldn't! Cuz guess what, if life has no purpose, it's a fucking GAME BRO!!!! And you're like the admin of your own ridiculous hilarious game of life! Like DAMN, idk about you, maybe I'm crazy, but that fills me with a weird kind of euphoria every time I think about it. Who knows what the future has in store? Who cares!!!!! Maybe I'll become a bigshot CTO at a lucrative company (that's my loose plans for now) following 4 awesome shittastic totally whatever insane years of college. Maybe I'll get hit by a bus tomorrow. Quite honestly I don't give a fuck! That's funny. Hilarious actually. I have big plans to have a big ol career and suddenly it's all ended by a bus, well whatever I had a pretty good run so far and it's not like I'll be able to say "shit, should've took the car!" when I'm dead.

There is one thing that scares me though, which is something like being in a tragic accident and losing limbs or someshit, or becoming a vegetable but still being alive and being able to see what's going on in the world around me without being able to do anything about it. Or getting half my face cut off by Hannibal Lecter and have it fed to my dog and having to look like gary oldman in the movie and not being able to pick up girls for the rest of my life:




(yeah jeffy says looks don't matter but it's hard to get pussy looking like that howEVER you look at the situation)

So yeah lmao idk about you but I literally wake up each day and thank zeus or whatever other god may be out there that I'm so lucky that I didn't end up like that or something similar.



I kinda got sidetracked, haha I guess all I'm saying is dude don't get yourself down so much. Maybe you're right, maybe life has no meaning but that means you get to do whatever the fuck you want - take pride in that! Remember, life's a game, everyone's going to die someday and at some point in the future when the sun burns up and becomes a supernova in the milky way there's going to be no one around to give 2 shits what you did in your life so as far as I'm concerned I could just sit here on my couch instead of macking on girls during my life span, or I could go out and do it, doesn't really matter either way because no one will remember me some day. BUT I like living in the moment and I like the feeling when my dick is in a vagina so I think I want my life to be like that as much as I can.

Of course I'm horribly wrong about all this if my parents were right and there is actually a heaven, but I'm putting my money on that there is no afterlife.

[jmac]

Amb1valence, you care if you get hit by a bus tomorrow. Don't over exaggerate that shit because nobody really wants to die, even the people who are suicidal, they just want to escape the pain and they feel it is their only option. But this is really a completely ignorant thread and completely useless and unnecessary. I can understand a post that reasonably talks about your life not being exciting whether it is a bit of a rant or actually seeking some advice, but then stating life has NO/ZERO meaning is just fucking stupid.

[Amb1valence]

I know its a pointless/ignorant thread. I'm just trying to help nick out a little...but nah dude I honestly don't care at all precisely because when your dead...you can't feel bad about everything you've lost. You don't feel at all, I've been thinking about that a little lately. Haha call me crazy but I'm not exaggerating at all

[jmac]

I understand your point, but what if there is an afterlife. You can believe whatever, and my beliefs have changed and now I hope that there is one because I would like to live on. But the real point of what I was saying is that you would care, because you say it now like "oh fuck it, i die tomorrow, whatever hahahahahah" but if today you KNEW you would be dying tomorrow. You wouldn't be upset that there was so much more you had ahead of you in life all being ended....

[hoops45]

Life has no meaning except what it means to you.
I want to be a father and make money playing basketball when I'm an adult. My life is important because without it I couldn't do those things. And I'm pretty sure you have stuff that gives your life meaning too, so just refocus on those things.

[Amb1valence]

Oh ok yeah I gotchu. Yeah if I KNEW I was dying tomorrow that would definitely upset me at least a bit. But my lack of care definitely has everything to do with my view of the afterlife...well anywayyyyyyyy

[canadiankid]

I think threads like this are good. If you get involved and people challenge your viewpoint that great! You learn to grow, think for yourself and take criticism.

[RMO]

live everyday like its your last, plan to live forever.

[jmac]

Say it's some stupid debate though, and some miracle happens and he wins. What viewpoint is changed. Now everyone thinks life is worthless? That's a horrible idea...... That is just making kids who don't know any better coming on this site for help reading things hoping to improve themselves, question their life is even worth something. That's a fucking horrible idea, and I am not saying anything against you but Nick for damn sure and I don't really care if I call someone out because it's stupid posting something like this.

[canadiankid]

It's a thought process and everyone's is different, I really hope some noob wouldn't read this and think "life's nothing, I should jump off a bridge" cause they'd be dumb as fuck.

[Adam]

I agree with Jmac this is very non helpful. Also just cause you do not hold certain beliefs does not mean everybody else who does is delusional. I am going through a depressive nilhistic point in my life too. I am trying to find my own happiness and it is post like these that use to put me in that depressive mindset. 'is there a god' 'what is the meaning to life' 'why do you deserve happiness' these are all pointless questions that serve no purpose but to make you depressed.

I'm still trying to 'figure out' happiness and how not to be afraid but these are the questions that will pull you to fear.