where to start?

[cross]

Im going to try to keep this short, but include important facts.

The bads:
Never dated or anything with a girl
Never invited to any parties
Seen as a loser at my school
Have lame friends socially (But good friends)
Go to a tiny school
Known as a techie
Quiet in groups

The good:
Confident as anything, when we get talking one on one (Seriously, no problems talking to girls, strangers etc.)
Always have stellar comebacks for when I have been made fun of the very few occasions (AKA shut down, ooh moments from the general crowd in the area)
Decent looking
Not geeky
Been working out hard, and eating right, for 9 months with trainer
Have had 2 jobs since I was 14 over the summer
Im 18 (Also bad in some ways)
Have been lurking on PUA forums for a few months
Though im 18 I can buy certain drinks (You know what im saying)
Dont let popularity etc. hold me back from what I try
Everyone knows me as a good guy, but no one ever gets too personal (Again, also both)

I have gotten dates from upperclassmen for lame stuff like prom, but nothing ever progressed.
I talk to girls fine, but they never seem more interested
Have tried many different options to move up the social ladder, but ive been stuck since 5th grade (As our general class has not changed, because the school is so tiny)
Cold openings are not easy to do in the school because people love to quickly label a creeper (Even if the most popular of people havent been) and that just hurts

Heres my situation. Theres a girl in the junior class who has been new since december. Has mostly girl friends, but I never see her. When I have the few times shes with a pack of girls, again all juniors, that I dont know remotely. Im stuck how to make a move because, no common classes, friends, etc. To make an opening.
Then if I do make an opening how to get to know here better, because doing stuff with friends, well mine would give off the wrong vibe. (Play nerdy videogames, nerdy in general etc. But I dont do that stuff at all)

Given if I do make in school moves, I have a month before seniors leave for internships

[Sloth]

seems very obvious to me what the issue is:

you talk to the girl you want fine but she never gets interested because you dont build attraction.

escalation/kino/flirting, cmon man, get the girl dont just talk to her, this is where game actually comes into play.

[theo]

Sloth summed it up well.
Seems to me that your perceived lack of confidence has made you prefer to "play it safe" and not TRY and get girls which might have made them think that you're just not "that kind of guy".

First step: Make it known to girls that you are open to this sort of thing. "Throw your name into the hat" as the saying goes

[cross]

Well put, will keep updates as things progress

[cross]

Got a number, and we plan on seeing a movie. Would hunger games be appropriate? I want to see it because it looks good, but im not sure on her part (And if it would be appropriate for a first date)

[qaz]

Around here a lot of girls are obsessed with hunger games I doubt it would be inappropriate to see. It sounds like your putting too much thought and pressure on this.

[NorwegianDJ]

Apr 21, 2012 10:00:57 GMT -5 cross said:

Got a number, and we plan on seeing a movie. Would hunger games be appropriate? I want to see it because it looks good, but im not sure on her part (And if it would be appropriate for a first date)

Just kiss her, alright?

[cross]

Ill stop overthinking

[cross]

And to follow up....
Shes a mormon (Which I figured out before)! Im totally chill with that, but they cant date till theyr older (Though it was BS googled it, its true)

[DanZy]

She's a mormon?
Run. Now.

[cross]

Wait whats wrong with mormons?
Tell me before I make a mistake

[DanZy]

Never go for someone super religious, it's always shit.