You Are a Slave to the Value System. Stop it.

[Andrew]

This is kind of going to be a blog post, but it needed to be read here. It's pretty long, but please read it. It took a lot of work and i kinda feel that it's really important to the community and yourself.

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I've gotten pretty disillusioned with game lately. Especially after seeing the way that some of these people on the forum operate. When I started gaming and reading game a couple years ago it was everything I needed and wanted to become the person I wanted to be and release my inner natural. The confidence in myself and solid inner game, as well as my own personal life philosophies I wouldn't trade for anything.

That being said, game has fucked me up. I started to see two different types of matrixes (matrices? i don't know). The first was social dynamics, which I can now map out like the back of my hand. The second one is The Value System.

People here throw these phrases like DHVs and DLVs and how something shows value or how you need this to show value around like nobody's business, but never really stop to think about what value really IS.

The Value System is the social law by which we are judged. Everything is assigned a value, clothes, jobs, streets, people. ESPECIALLY people. But not only that, but what you say, how you act, how you move, how EVERYTHING you do and are and want to be is judged. When I started seeing the value system it was like every single thing had a little number above it. I'm sure some of these older guys know what I'm talking about.

Do you realize how fucking CONSTRICTING that is?

So what have we and the rest of he PUA community done? We found a way to bypass value, to work through it. To figure out lines and phrases and mindsets all in the hopes of triumphing value and becoming the holy Alpha Male.

And what happens then? What happens when you figured it all out and you beat value? What then?

Well, then, your still value's bitch.

We will be slaves to Value as long as Value has a name. As long as Value is something that exists then we will not be free. We could win every single AMOG battle in the whole wide world and still lose to value. Because whether you know it or not, thats how we operate.

People talk about how approach anxiety shouldn't exist, and its just words, and people need to grow a pair and just walk up to people. Thats true. That does need to happen, and its true AA is something that is learned, but its also a BIOLOGICAL REFLEX that needs to be fought. And thats hard to do.

But value isn't. Value is something that PUAs have taught themselves to justify why everything is in its certain place, and why people do what they do.

So it can be unlearned.

As long as value is something that you think about, you will never be a true Alpha Male. And that is a stone-cold fact.

I'm tired of people changing what they act like around other people to try to appease them. I'm tired of people deciding what they want to do in order to try to gain the affection and respect of others. I'm tired of people trying to figure out who they want to hang out with because it will look better. Because deny it all you want, thats what were doing. We are changing who we are (even if it might be an outer shell or two) for other people.

So stop. Stop it. A true alpha male wears what he wants, does what he wants, hangs out who he wants to, and basically acts like he wants.

There is no formula or rule to be an alpha male. Once you give up the thoughts of others, then you become an alpha male. Stop trying to prove yourself.

You can deny it all you want, but when you reach for that shirt over a different one, ask yourself am I wearing this shirt for me, or because i think other people think it looks cool?

This isn't trying to tell you how to become homecoming or prom king or whatever. I'm not trying to tell you how to run the school. I'm not even trying to tell you how to win the hearts and panties of all the girls in your school. But if thats what you want, best of luck to you. I truly believe that you can.

Because an alpha male doesn't need that. An alpha male doesnt need cocky funny (cocky funny makes me mad because all it is is just one person's frame packaged and sold to millions), because he has his own cocky funny. An alpha male is true to himself. And if he succeeds, then he can have anything he wants just by taking it. You wont need to go out of your way to win over girls. You'll just need to talk to them, and once they get to know you at all, you'll have them. because you'll be REAL. a REAL MAN.

I'm not saying this is where I am. I had this epiphany this week. But I'm getting there. And knowing the step. Just before you do something, make sure your doing it for yourself. Yourself and NOBODY ELSE


Say goodbye to lines, say goodbye to routines. Say goodbye to methods, PLEASE say goodbye to cocky funny

Say hello to yourself.


-Andrew

[nutrick]

+1... 00000000000000000000000000000, fucking awesome andrew, i would sticky this if it wasn't already stickied. i've fallen prey to this in the past.. couple of hours. its tough to realize how free we really are. i fuckin love you damnit.

[Alek]

Love you man, excellent post. Its funny because I had this mind set in my head for a while now, and im obeying it. Do shit for yourself, for your own not to appease.

Good stuff

[Deleted]

Wowzers. I knew there was reason you were a mod haha

+1

[RMO]

Oh... shit. That was amazing, props to you sir, props.
Since i have already gotten in deep shit for discussing non-game topics over actual pua ( like a bitch) I do have this to say. You are describing what we call ego and how it controls you. More on this later.

[Volt]

This is well worth the wait. The one flaw I can find is that you waffle regarding the correct spelling of the word "matrices."

I google imaged +1 and this is the first thing that came up. I think it's where my mind is right now
esamultimedia.esa.int/images/smart_1/wallpaper_SMART1_002.jpg [/img]

[Andrew]

Oct 7, 2009 0:28:19 GMT -5 RMO said:

Oh... shit. That was amazing, props to you sir, props.
Since i have already gotten in deep shit for discussing non-game topics over actual pua ( like a bitch) I do have this to say. You are describing what we call ego and how it controls you. More on this later.

I think while a lot of it may be ego, I think that you can still havea HUGE ego and be alpha in the way that Im describing. Its when you let other people dictate where your ego goes and what your egotistical about.

[RMO]

Andrew read my ego article i just posted, in short your ego is the part of your brain that both receives info and relays instruction form your brain to your body. Ergo your ego is a separate entity then your mind which is based on how you see yourself and how you want yourself to be seen. The ego is the only enemy and if you can control it then you are truly free, read my article and then I talk more on ego

[manslaughter]

tommygold you don't know shit try to actualy do some research next time

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego

[$wagg]

The ego is the part of the brain that seeks to fulfill our desires in a non-harming manner. It is our critical side, our logic. It is responsible for our behavior and the way we act. Tommy said that it is the part that actually handles received information and carries out "tasks".
I think you need to stfu and learn how to read, so you don't look like an idiot next time.

Andrew, you beat me to it. This too came to me in a revelation haha.
BIG UPS

[RMO]

ooh, well since my whole point is compressed into like a sentence it it incredibly easy to miss what I said in my 2 page article, but whatever.
Anyway, my ego definition was based of a variety of psychologists and ideas, yours is based of frued, to be more exact, frued on a wiki ( the man who said that we are all instinctively attracted to our own mothers i might add) and your precious wiki states that there are multiple definitions so there can be multiple opinions if I am not mistaken.

and dude, it even says your ego is the connection between the rest of the mind (id+super ego) and reality, and what does reading have to do with what?

your right it isnt the part that handles received info, it is the receiver.

but this is really childish and if you want to actively call me an illiterate idiot actually read my large article and I will readily admit defeat. and I will say right now that I could be wrong, and everything I wrote was a giant lie, but i dont think that this particular area is the best suited for that argument, it is Andrews revelation of personal freedom.

[Rusty]

No... ego is what you boys are trying to enlarge by arguing about this

Haha kidding, chill out though. This is fucking juvenile

[curlyhairedbastard]

great philosophy, you make it sound easy though.

we're always going to care what people think, it's an instinct inherited from our ancestors. even alphas had to worry.

just because you're an alpha gorilla doesn't mean another alpha couldn't come into your life and take over what you have. value is there because people are pack mammals, we value ourselves to a group so we can feel like we'd be harder to replace then someone else. 500,000 years ago when we lived in packs, being replaced or kicked out meant death. why do you think being shunned hurts so much?


i wish i could live the way you say, but my instincts, ancestry and need to be a alpha combat that.

[wespeezy]

thank youuuu, I am not the only one who is sick of cocky funny!!!!

[Grape]

You are all my bitches. =]
I win.





No. hahahahaha +1 Andrew. <33 I knew there was something very important that needed to be said and your post was it.