Mindin your own business

[Nick]

You want advice, but NO AMOUNT OF ADVICE WILL HELP YOU.

Just shut up and DO IT. There's no magic quote that is going to fix your pathetic situation. If you want something than GO GET IT. Honestly, I wish PUA forums and all self-help shit were completely gone. It's all mental masturbation of "If I read this book or that article than I'll get better!". Well, you probably won't and if you do, you still wasted waaay too much effort.

Just be who you want to be. It's not complicated. You want to be the center of attention? Than be it. You don't need advice. You already know what to do. You're not an idiot, I know it. You're just a stubborn, scared-to-fail, excuse-making pussy.

How do you THINK you become the center of attention?

Stop caring about what other people think about you or that superficial "don't give a shit" mentality. If you truly WANT to be the center of attention than go out and BE it.

So get out there and DO what you WANT. It's so fucking simple. Life is simple and you are complicating THE SHIT out of it. You have the most fucked up mentality I've ever seen.

JUST DO IT

P.S. Your name completely defines your shitty mindset. Perceverance (properly spelled perseverance) sets up this frame that it's You vs. The World. You STRUGGLING to make it through this world and barely making it through. Oh, the terror... NOOOO!! The world is ON YOUR SIDE. Accept yourself for who you are. An average joe, no better than the rest. Scum in fact. A useless organization of cells. You'll never do anything. So, make the best out of life... you're not persevering... you're controlling and LEADING your life. It's easy... You need to watch Fight Club (and again if you already have).

[canadiankid]

Furthermore, if what you want to do doesn't put you in the centre of attention, why would you want to be the centre of attention? Then your faking it and it won't make you happy.

[perceverance]

haters gonna hate. anyone else wanna come at me? i would like to see some quality advice on how to be the center of attention or how you guys do it at least because even if you are enjoying the shit out of life and doing it naturally, you know what you are doing on a subconcious level. advice is truly appreciated, thanks guys.

[Shampoo]

What kind of advice do you want? Cause what people are saying on here is helpful...

[Nick]

You want advice on how to be the center of attention? Talk loud, do interesting shit, and demand attention from others both by your words and actions.

Examples:
- HEY EVERYBODY CHECK THIS OUT!!
- Do random shit (ie - when the teacher leaves the room, take his spot at the podium/desk/whatever lol)
- Say something funny (LOUDLY) in the middle of the class in response to whatever (ie something teacher says)
- Be a trouble maker (fuck around and talk with the people around you DURING CLASS)
- Make noises in class (penis game or grunting game)
- Ask interesting questions in class that get people involved
- Throw shit around
- Do some cool trick (my friend had a wall in front of him so he threw a pencil at it, it bounced back, and he caught it... looked cool as shit. And no, he didn't tell anyone he was gonna do it... he just did and made a loud ass noise... then the whole class demanded he do it again cuz they missed it... )

Not fuckin hard, bro... It's just being louder than everyone else and doing whatever the fuck is on your mind that sounds cool.

There's your "advice". Simple shit. You gonna do it now or complain some more?



Peace <3

[perceverance]

^ there we go. thanks man, i appreciate it.

[Nick]

Actually something VERY IMPORTANT I forgot to mention...

If the teacher ever asks for help or there is anything you can do to help, DO IT. (ie, passing out papers) The only reason you can get away with being a trouble student is because you're
helping the teacher, too. The teacher has no choice
but to like you

You can pretty much game them, too. Say things like,
"but you love me right? " when she gets mad at you.

Simple stuff but helping is always good and it lets you be social during class.

[Adam]

^that also looks like a guide to being annoying and obnoxious.

[Shampoo]

^ Dude thats EXACTLY what I was thinking. If someone did that during class, 1 the teacher wouldnt take it and youd be hated in class for interrupting soooo much everyone would tell you to shut the fuck up. 2 TONS of people would find you annoying and obnoxious which isint good.

I do agree though with the point he is trying to say. Dont be shy and timid but be out there and out of your comfort zone. Look, it seems like you dont know how to have conversations nor does it look like your confident in anyway. Your ganna call this me bagging on you but Im being straight foward and helping you. This is what you have to do.

Make a legit attempt, and learn something in real life instead of this forum. You learn WAY BETTER from EXPERIENCE than reading books and forums. It seems like your losing so you might as well.

Fucking stop taking every little shit someone tells you personally. Its bad and you will get no where nor will you be successful. Sometimes people are in a bad mood and you were there at the wrong time. Shake it off, people arent usually douches unless their self concious.

Thats all, do those two things NOW and you will see some changes. Instead trying to grasp all the little techniques and tricks APPLY what you read little by little, day by day till you become comfortable. Your always going to feel as if you dont know enough and you have to read more. Just start doing it now, cause even if its the worst attempt if you gave it your all you will learn something.

[Nick]

Are you serious? Kids do that shit in my school EVERY DAY. No one tells them to shut up. Why? They're fuckin' funny. Only the nerds get all upset... why? They're not the center of attention... I used to feel that way. I understand...

The alpha of the class is one that sucks up to the teacher but is totally funny. He doesn'r randomly speak up in class saying a stupid corny joke, he says it when the teacher asks him a question. The main shit he does is when the teacher is out of the classroom (the story about my friend...). It all really doesn't matter to the teacher either because you're nice and helpful. You have good intentions, you're just naturally... awesome

You just talk more in class than anyone else... not out of place, but when you're supposed to. Questions, answers, something funny... It's not out of place...

On second look, the "penis" game is a little obnoxious... but it is fun and if you have A LOT of people in on it and everyone on your side... everyone is going to think it's funny. Everything else is perfectly fine if used in moderation...

Shit dude, and talk to the teacher before/after class and before/after school, too. Getting in with the teacher is a major bonus. Everything will go right.

And that's just classroom game as an example... taking the center of attention is something you do EVERYWHERE. It's being the center of attention JUST AT SCHOOL. It becomes YOU and who you are. You're the center of attention at parties, out shopping, and even at home. Always. It's not something you should really take lightly.

In general, you're just loud, valuable, interesting, and the provider of fun. I can try to give examples but I'm not sure how well I'll do. You're just fuckin' social. Talking to everybody... Watch Swingers lol. Vince Vaughan is a major alpha and a GREAT person to model yourself after in that movie.

[Amb1valence]

Hmmmm Nick you're right. Shampoo and Adam I thought the same thing when I read nick's first post but I realized that you only come off as obnoxious IF! you take it way too far, or if you buckle under the pressure of the classmates.


Most of the stuff on nick's list are definitely alpha, save for the penis game and talking all the time. A lot of people are uptight and so when you try and start up the penis game they'll pucker their sphincters and be like "stooopp ittt your so immatureee!" Also it's hard to talk to people when the teacher's talking so I wouldn't recommend having a fucking conversation.............unless you did what nick said in his second post, which is just whispering a question, getting an answer, then teasing them or making a joke about their answer, etc.

Making little funny or satirical comments here and there is always great. As long as you don't sound like a little tryhard douche when you do it, people will laugh at one every now and again, it really lightens up the day lol.


And my other point was that you can do almost any of that stuff as long as you don't take it too far. For example I got some new kicks the other day and they squeak like mofos on my schools linoleum floors, so in the middle of class I just randomly start making quiet little squeaks with my shoes haha. And guess what? YES you will look like a bitch..........IF you react to other people. Because eventually someone sits up and looks at me and gives that annoyed "ohmigod stoooop!" all you gotta do is sit there with a big ass grin on your face, say "ok sorry" and then give em one more squeak after they turn around.

I guess what I'm trying to say is when you're doing that shit in class, you won't come off as immature or obnoxious AS LONG AS you keep a smirk on your face THE ENTIRE TIME, have a strong ass frame and not stop right away when people get annoyed.



Also guys go easy on perc. Dude i feel you, I was pretty much in your same position a month or two ago, I still am sometimes, when you're sitting there while some dude has all the spotlight and you're sitting there with no one to talk to and you feel like a total douche. It happens to me STILL sometimes (like at the end of a class where I'm not exactly bff's with anyone in the class) and yeah it sucks cock. But just kinda ride it out and remind yourself that it'll just be a couple funny comments until you get the attention again. It's not that perc's unwilling to try shit, he just doesn't know what to do. Nick your post definitely helped a lot so thanks much for that, I think that's exactly what he was looking for.

[Adam]

EDIT:^no fair you posted exactly what i just did but i didn't see it. Fuck it im not deleting my post

I agree with the whole talk to the teacher stuff but there is a kid in my geo class that is ultra annoying who does all the shit you mention. It was kinda funny for a week but now hes legit annoying. He is a fucking attention whore. He makes stupid comments and weird grunts and he thinks hes funny. When we say stfu we are not being douches he is legit annoying our brains out.

On the other hand the two alphas of the class do most of the stuff on the list but are good at it. When they say something out of line it is clever therefore forgivable. They time there jokes and shit so everybody is laughing even the teacher. One is also really smart and adds great stuff on polotics.

Moral of the story don't talk just to hear your own voice. Its fucking annoying. Say something clever or add to the convo. Don't just be random in a dumb way.

[perceverance]

im glad were spreading the love. thanks for giving me more insight on the subject guys.

[canadiankid]

Yeah guys, it just requires a little common sense. Obviously if you shout out every three seconds and none of its funny your fucking annoying. And I will let you know haha then proceed to make you look like a tool at every possible moment. However if your chill about it and slightly humourous your just adding to the enjoyment for everyone and only low value fags will hate on you.

[jmac]

I am sorry but this site is getting fucking ridiculous. I'm not trying to call you out bro but Nick the only two I can possibly agree with is being a trouble maker in class (use with moderation don't be fucking annoying trying to act all hard core) and asking interesting questions (but don't go completely off topic talking about random shit because not everyone wants to hear it). Any normal person is already a little pissed they are in school because it fucking blows especially teachers so going to class and hearing someone start yelling "PENIS" is annoying as fuck. I would call that kid out so fast and I know a lot of other kids would too. Especially if you aren't even one of the more popular people kids in class and you suddenly start yelling shit or throwing stuff at somebody, it is a clear call for attention. The reason people might not say anything to those kids doing annoying shit is because they don't wanna look like a jerk but in all of my classes I can think of multiple people who would because nobody wants to hear some gay shit in class. I am just trying to emphasize the reasons why I dislike the idea not be a dick to you Nick.

But really perceverance, it's not gonna be easy. High school can be a bitch if you didn't start off with the whole "popular crew" your gonna have to put in some effort but you also can't come off as a "try-hard". The best advice you could get is from someone who HAS gone from "0 to Hero" figuratively speaking. If I were trying to go from just being know as "Oh yeah him? I think hes in my spanish class. He's pretty quiet though, seems like a nice kid." to being "He is the fucking man!" The advice Nick gave about being "Badass" is one of the best ways, unfortunately it obviously comes with consequences (unless you get lucky like I have before). Doing things just like showing up late to class once in a while (don't make it seem like your doing it on purpose, cause that can be obnoxious), try and come up with a funny answer to get the rest of the class laughing. BUT I CAN NOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH, TAKE YOUR TIME IF YOU TRY TO DO THIS EVERYDAY PEOPLE WILL BE SO ANNOYED. In a few of my classes there are kids like this, a girl who shows up late thinking its funny as hell and then everyday she blurted out random shit nobody cared about thinking it was funny. Another kid also yells out stupid stuff which IS funny because he is a decently funny kid but it gets tiring listening to his dumbass talk everyday. And ya Nick nobody says anything to him OUTLOUD but a lot of my friends will be talkin to me after class and I hear "Joe needs to shut the fuck up he used to be funny but damn that gets old fast" a lot. So know that becoming more noticed and shit takes time bro especially if your new to the whole idea so don't be so quick to shut down ideas since your just starting out. Not everything is going to work because we live in different places and have different classmates but you don't need to worry about all this ALPHA bullshit as much as you are. You can either live your life trying to become something your not or you can work with what you have and just be the best you can be. So yeah you can become the center of attention but don't change who you are to get there.