Before you Don't do a bunch of drugs...

[jae]

In the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, and New Zealand, paracetamol is the most common cause of poisoning and rug overdoses. In America it accounts for more than 100,000 hospital calls, as well as 56,000 emergency room visits, 2,600 hospitalizations, and 458 deaths due to acute liver failure per year. Compared to Heroin and Methamphetamine with 97 and 243 one-factor fatal overdoses each year.

Paracetamol has a pain relief rating of 2. Codeine has a pain relief score of 3.8 and contributes to very few deaths (<100)

Out of every drug, only barbiturates and alcohol can cause death from withdrawal directly. Barbiturates were widely replaced by the far less dangerous and less addictive benzodiazepines. Alcohol was not. Intoxication is the term used for poisoning resulting in impairment, ethanol is literally a poison. It does nothing positive for any cell in the body. It in fact damages them all, similar to other poisons.

Alcohol is more addictive then benzo's. Coming off alcohol can lead to seizures, multiple organ failure and a host of less dangerous symptoms. It contributes to more deaths than any single illegal drug.

But, illegal drugs aren't good. It's just that legal drugs suck hard. Weed is nearly as addictive as amphetamine and benzo's contribute to the most depressant related deaths, besides alcohol. Conbinations of temazepam or valium and heroin kill more people than the three combined as one-factor overdoses.

So, essentially, the most harmful drugs are legal. As well as pointless. The only thing going for them is legality, other drugs beat them in every possible regard. I know there are counter arguments like "Well, far more people use paracetamol" but I think that's beside the point. No one dies from Codeine as one factor, the only reason paracetamol is used is to discourage abuse. By killing the druggies. Alcohol is hugely underestimated in terms of addiction, having seen withdrawal off everything the only thing which compares is barbiturates. Even then, they look like nothing.

My other point is weed is addictive. Fair addictive. I wish people would stop saying it isn't, it's psychologically addictive but not very addictive physically. Like cocaine.

Also, don't smoke. It kills more people than any drug listed above, three times more than alcohol related degenerative damages. Around 27,000.

---

www.peele.net/lib/heroinoverdose.html
www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/medicine/painkiller-comparison.htm
www.mja.com.au/public/issues/188_05_030308/dal10916_fm.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg
www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/13/us-drugs-painkiller-idUSTRE70C48O20110113
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin#Adverse_effects
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol_toxicity

[jae]

Draft version of a write up.

[infamous93]

I'm not so concerned with dying as the fact that cocaine meth and herion have permanent damaging effects on your brain which in my belief is worse than any perscription drug.

I agree with you on weed

Alcohol can be beneficial to health, they have found that alcohol (in healthy amounts) decreases stress levels and can prolong life.

[Adam]

Dude weed is not physically addictive (not very mich at least) caffine is more addictive than weed.

[Contempt]

Dude almost anything in life can be considered "psychologically addictive", yes in different amounts. But you cant say that if you go and smoke weed for the first time in a couple months you'll be stoned 24/7 and not have any money. I mean yeah, everyone knows a couple people who smoke everyday and who are psychologically addicted to it. But theres tons of guys who are "addicted" to shit like jacking off, internet porn, adrenalin rushes, etc etc. I mean really your making a big deal about nothing. My opinion is, we're adults, WE control what we put in our body, we should have the mental strenght to control our impulses, if you dont with a specific activity, you should try to avoid/push through it and move on. I mean, this isn't really related, but, i dont think the government should be able to tell us what we do or dont put in our bodies.

Oh, and pot is definitely not nearly as addictive as amphetamines. Sorry man but if you say that your fucking crazy. I've done both-and if you look at the percentages of people who take those occasionally to those who are actually take those two substances on a daily basis amphetamines has a much higher percentage. It just seems like theres more pot addicted people cause SO FUCKING MANY people smoke. In addition, the psychological withdrawal and next day after amphetamines is soooo much more brutal.

Also, correct me if i'm wrong, but i think you said the most brutal addiction/withdrawal is alchohol.... trust me, i've gone through opiate withdrawal, i had it pretty easy, and its not fun.

I hope i dont see like i'm trolling. I'm just trying to give my input, which seems to just also happen to disagree with you lot. My advice only advice: Codeine is fun, hydros are fun--just dont do em alot.

I agree with you about smoking though--and for the most part about how bad alcohol is for you. Did you know that drug-free america is sponsored by the alcohol and tobacco companies?

[Shampoo]

Anyone can be addicted to anything. Just cause people play baseball all the time doesnt mean their addicted to it. Also if you learned anything legit from your research, even though half those sites have a bias and wikipedia not being a legitimate backed source, that CORRELATION DOES NOT MEAN CAUSATION. Maybe people who have addictive traits smoke weed. Before you make rash assumptions lets do a little more research than that. It seems like you have never drank alcohol or weed. If you havent experimented it yourself dont talk about it.

Edit: ZERO

Thats how many people died from marijuana

[theo]

Fun fact: It takes 400 joints to kill a human.

Or at least that's what I read somewhere.

[Adam]

Actually it's about 2 pounds of weed... dropped from 500 feet on somebodys head

[jae]

Jan 12, 2012 20:14:41 GMT -5 Adam said:

Dude weed is not physically addictive (not very mich at least) caffine is more addictive than weed.

I said that.

Jan 12, 2012 20:22:49 GMT -5 Contempt said:

Dude almost anything in life can be considered "psychologically addictive", yes in different amounts. But you cant say that if you go and smoke weed for the first time in a couple months you'll be stoned 24/7 and not have any money. I mean yeah, everyone knows a couple people who smoke everyday and who are psychologically addicted to it. But theres tons of guys who are "addicted" to shit like jacking off, internet porn, adrenalin rushes, etc etc. I mean really your making a big deal about nothing. My opinion is, we're adults, WE control what we put in our body, we should have the mental strenght to control our impulses, if you dont with a specific activity, you should try to avoid/push through it and move on. I mean, this isn't really related, but, i dont think the government should be able to tell us what we do or dont put in our bodies.

Oh, and pot is definitely not nearly as addictive as amphetamines. Sorry man but if you say that your fucking crazy. I've done both-and if you look at the percentages of people who take those occasionally to those who are actually take those two substances on a daily basis amphetamines has a much higher percentage. It just seems like theres more pot addicted people cause SO FUCKING MANY people smoke. In addition, the psychological withdrawal and next day after amphetamines is soooo much more brutal.

Also, correct me if i'm wrong, but i think you said the most brutal addiction/withdrawal is alchohol.... trust me, i've gone through opiate withdrawal, i had it pretty easy, and its not fun.

I hope i dont see like i'm trolling. I'm just trying to give my input, which seems to just also happen to disagree with you lot. My advice only advice: Codeine is fun, hydros are fun--just dont do em alot.

I agree with you about smoking though--and for the most part about how bad alcohol is for you. Did you know that drug-free america is sponsored by the alcohol and tobacco companies?

I can't smoke weed because I have to go through random drug tests for my ADHD in about two months. BUT it is, without a doubt, 100% psychologically addictive. That is, imo, harder to deal with. Because when I was trying to quit, physical pain was nothing compared to "Just one more pill. Yeah, I can stop.." Because it seems so perfect and logical.

No, heroin isn't known to be damaging long term. There is no research to prove it and our bodies constantly have small amounts of morphine in them, the active metabolite of heroin. I'm not saying they aren't but they're not known for sure to be.

Opiate withdrawal of both those drugs is nothing compared to heroin, which is not hard compared to benzos, which aren't as bad as barbiturates which don't stand up to alcohol. Go on youtube and look up alcohol withdrawal, they have constant tremors, sleep seizures and dystopic hallucinations. In a good case. I have withdrawn of barbs, they make codeine withdrawal look like a minor headache and a dry mouth. Which it basically is, the only difficulty is the psychological component. No offence, I just found it far easier to stop taking the say, temazepam. I respect your opinions and your contribution to this topic, no troll.

Amphetamine is said to be more damaging, but barely more addictive then weed. I cited my source on that one and it came from a reputable English study with a large sample size. If you meet street amphetamine, that is about 5x more addictive then dexedrine. Street amphetamine hasn't been cooked much since the nineties, methamphetamine is cheaper and easier to make, as well as having more customers due to the addiction rates.

HOW DARE YOU SAY I DON'T DO DRUGS! Nah, seriously, the only drugs mentioned so far I haven't done are tobacco, weed and dexies. Alcohol and paracetamol are at least as, if not more, damaging then other drugs mentioned. Our bodies are designed to be able to process opium, weed and ephedrine. We are not designed to take in the ultra potent forms available now. We aren't designed to take ethanol or paracetamol to begin with, weak or no.

Morale of the story: Everyone can get addicted to anything. Among those anythings are weed, soccer and internet porn. They may be addictive physically, psychologically or some combination thereof. Whatever the dynamic of it, it can be addictive. Some things however, have more potential to addict, and some things have harder addictions to quit. Be it physically or mentally, some addictions are harder to kick.

[Amb1valence]

[jae]

... what? I choose not to drink but have. I prefer cough syrup, because alcohol to me seems like a pussy drink. It does nothing special and hurts like a bitch, why would I drink it if I am already confident and willing to fuck fatties?

[jp94]

Weed is as addictive as amphetamines? GTFO! the only withdrawal symptom from weed is boredom

[Sloth]

so you drink cough syrup to get buzzed.. and you think alcohol is a pussy drink?

k.

[Parkwhore]

Jan 17, 2012 20:58:08 GMT -5 Sloth said:

so you drink cough syrup to get buzzed.. and you think alcohol is a pussy drink?

k.

Forreal, the fuck?

[canadiankid]

Amphetamine is way the fuck more addictive than weed. I haven't a clue where your getting your info.

And I would bet a lot of money that drinking cough syrup is worse for you than drinking alcohol. I can't speak for anyone else but I don't drink for the confidence, I drink because I enjoy the drinks I have as well as I like the feeling of it.