Adam
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Post by Adam on May 4, 2011 11:03:50 GMT -5
^ I still disagree but if this is actually true WOW your school is shallow -.-
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Post by spe3d on May 4, 2011 14:41:36 GMT -5
^ so why the fuck do you hang with beggar then? He was the first kid I was cool with when I didn't know anyone else at the school. I'm all for the "bros before hoes" thing even though he would throw me in an ocean for some pussy. He's pretty cool though. I mean everyone knows that guy that is always nice to EVERY girl and talks to EVERY girl despite the IOD's they're giving. They all know he just wants some pussy so he comes off as needy. If Beggar wasn't like this, he'd be an overall awesome guy to chill with. But I mean I have cool friends too. He's not my only friend. |
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Post by Contempt on May 4, 2011 16:14:07 GMT -5
^ I still disagree but if this is actually true WOW your school is shallow -.- people don't consciously think this. It's a subconscious thing people do. It doesn't make them shallow. Its just a fact: people aren't friends with someone without some benefit to themselves. I know, it seems terrible, but think about it, who would you rather hang out with--someone who is just like everyone else with nothing unique, or someone who has some personality to them and something fun going on? BTW, i'm not saying you don't have any personality or anything unique about you perseverance, you may just be focusing on the wrong way of befriending people--trying to be just like them. |
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Post by Adam on May 4, 2011 19:50:24 GMT -5
^ contempt i assumed that perceverance was high value and the only reason he couldn't get girls was cause he was not in their 'group'. Of course people will not be willing to befriend others if they don't have anything to bring to the table
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Post by Contempt on May 4, 2011 20:11:22 GMT -5
well if he is high value your definitely right.
BUT, since he he said he doesn't really hang out with anyone ever, i'm assuming he's not. Atleast not in the eyes of some of his peers/women.
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Post by perceverance on May 4, 2011 20:33:28 GMT -5
so i have to hang out with people to be considered high value by women? :/
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Post by Shampoo on May 4, 2011 20:41:39 GMT -5
You wanna know how? Be nice to everyone, give them value. Pick a guy your really cool with whos popular and work your magic bro. Throw some parties sometimes or some shit. You just gotta be the one who is nice to EVERYONE and give them value. Dont seek it. Dont be a push over though, stand up for yourself when you need to but live life everyday with a smile  |
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Post by Contempt on May 4, 2011 20:45:25 GMT -5
high social value. High value just means you have high standards etc. I guess i should have clarified.
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Post by perceverance on May 4, 2011 21:00:30 GMT -5
You wanna know how? Be nice to everyone, give them value. Pick a guy your really cool with whos popular and work your magic bro. Throw some parties sometimes or some shit. You just gotta be the one who is nice to EVERYONE and give them value. Dont seek it. Dont be a push over though, stand up for yourself when you need to but live life everyday with a smile i did that for a while but some people and the popular kids tried to take advantage of me and when i didnt let them, they stopped talking to me. i cant really throw parties or have barbacues or anything because i live in a really small condo. im good with the ladies, its just i dont understand how this social stuff works. |
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Post by taxman on May 5, 2011 4:19:26 GMT -5
i hang out with some losers who constantly amog and cockblock each other(they supply no social proof whatsoever) so then get better friends i constantly try to socialize with the 'popular' kids and try to get into their group but i dont know why the fuck they avoid me. because you view them as higher authority and maybe they just don't like you that much im a positive guy around people and try to sustain a positive vibe but for some reason the people who have alot of social proof avoid me. positivity doesn't exactly make people want to hang with you I know lots of cool positve guys but some just don't get it, also nice guys finish last its like even they think they are too cool for me or something. They do, and because you've accepted it, they are .. Stop whining. i have pretty good game both outer and inner, its just that this social proof issue is fucking me over. Mental masturbation. This is the first time iv seen someone say that social proof is holding them back, social proof is an attraction switch I dunno how many they are but social proof isn't a game breaker like your saying if i could manage to get a hot, 'popular', girl 1 on 1, i would have her on my dick for sure but they dont come near me because i have 0 social proof. self limiting thought. You know you can have her so why are you whining, your a man go get what you want how do you get people to like you? stop looking for a magic pill your fighting the process, some people will love you and others will not. You have to be cool with your self to attract people with similar interests you can't be "fake" trying to force positivity and trying to get people to like you. The party is where you are at not them. You could get social proof by dressing like a straight up G or being a cool person that people gravitate towards and don't mind talking too .. there are lots of chodey popular groups at my school and they hang out with a few hot chicks and quite frankly I'd never wanna be a part of that. There's no point chasing popularity and the spotlight with chicks, I'm sure some guys will agree with me - there are so many undiscovered gems of hot women out there that aren't popular. These chicks are popular coz chodes said so, social robots said they are popular not me. In my eyes they aren't shit. And guess what everyone has to sleep, and when these "popular dudes" sleep go approach their chicks .. On a positive note though iv also noticed something under ground haha, if you wanna be friends with someone and hang out with em regularly, prob the easiest thing to do is sleep over at their house after an event or something and just hang with them, they become so much more comfortable with you and you just start getting something rolling .. Same as if a chick is like playing hard to get and shit and when you kiss them after a while she starts to like you a lot and everything starts to move smoothly, but basically keep it real bro your chasing shadows. |
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Post by Contempt on May 5, 2011 7:47:40 GMT -5
^ social proof is a game breaker for lots of the girls in highschool.
AND, correct me if i'm wrong, but what he's trying to do is "get better friends"
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Post by taxman on May 5, 2011 8:19:55 GMT -5
social proof is a game breaker for lots of the girls in highschool. Self limiting belief. Cool people only hang out/date cool people, I wouldn't go out with a social retard or a whale that's reality. What makes him cool ? What makes him the shit ? Does he dress better than anyone ? Is his body language sick ? Is his voice the shit ? .. You can't just get social proof, its a by product. If your cool the "popular" people won't look down on you even if you choose to go on your own path and once they don't see themselves as higher value that's when talking to their chicks becomes standard |
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Post by DanZy on May 5, 2011 9:28:48 GMT -5
If you're looking for "better" friends, have you thought of what kind of friend you are?
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Post by Eastcoast on May 5, 2011 11:42:26 GMT -5
Everyone has been hammering down some pretty good points here, its a good discussion. I think really what it comes down to is you. I'm pretty sure you are a low value person. Im not trying to be a dick but even through these posts it seems like your coming off as tryhard. The only way that these people are going to accept you is for you to truly not give a fuck about them liking you and having a fun time. The byproduct of this is that people will ACTUALLY want to hangout with you regardless of your social proof. Like savant said there you cant force people to like you which is what your seeming to do now. And by you saying that you can do fine 1 on 1 then why dont you? Its easy to meet hot girls in your classes where they dont have their group of friends surrounding them and go from there.
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Post by spe3d on May 5, 2011 14:22:28 GMT -5
Everyone has been hammering down some pretty good points here, its a good discussion. I think really what it comes down to is you. I'm pretty sure you are a low value person. Im not trying to be a dick but even through these posts it seems like your coming off as tryhard. The only way that these people are going to accept you is for you to truly not give a fuck about them liking you and having a fun time. The byproduct of this is that people will ACTUALLY want to hangout with you regardless of your social proof. Like savant said there you cant force people to like you which is what your seeming to do now. And by you saying that you can do fine 1 on 1 then why dont you? Its easy to meet hot girls in your classes where they dont have their group of friends surrounding them and go from there. Tru that. That's why i'm friends with many popular kids. I don't really care if they like me or not. I have real friends that I know for a fact like me. I give value to everyone that I think deserves it. |
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