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Post by Contempt on May 5, 2011 16:23:08 GMT -5
social proof is a game breaker for lots of the girls in highschool. Self limiting belief. Cool people only hang out/date cool people, I wouldn't go out with a social retard or a whale that's reality. What makes him cool ? What makes him the shit ? Does he dress better than anyone ? Is his body language sick ? Is his voice the shit ? .. You can't just get social proof, its a by product. If your cool the "popular" people won't look down on you even if you choose to go on your own path and once they don't see themselves as higher value that's when talking to their chicks becomes standard All i said is that social proof is very important in HS. Which it is. I'm not talking about how you get it. I just said social proof is very important. Girls DO like guys because of the social proof they have. Thats a fact. Yes, alot of times the guys who have social proof have everything else together as far as being attractive goes. BUT GIRLS ARE EXTREMELY ATTRACTED TO SOCIAL PROOF IN HIGHSCHOOL. Saying they are not, is like saying women to care about their reputation or social standing in school. Its the opposite, women are pretty much more concerned with their social status than anything else in highschool. They are judged on who they hookup with/date, so they make sure that whoever they hook up with/ date is high up on the social ladder. That, is what makes social proof so important.
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Post by taxman on May 5, 2011 16:42:05 GMT -5
I know chicks like social proof and reputations no doubt .. That's not even pick up its common sense. I never said it doesn't matter I said its a self limiting belief. If social proof is what is holding you back then pick up isn't for you. You can't use it as an excuse. Its inevitable that he will get his blueprint but whining is gay. His looking for shortcuts to living life as an attractive man.
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Post by perceverance on May 5, 2011 17:22:31 GMT -5
Self limiting belief. Cool people only hang out/date cool people, I wouldn't go out with a social retard or a whale that's reality. What makes him cool ? What makes him the shit ? Does he dress better than anyone ? Is his body language sick ? Is his voice the shit ? .. You can't just get social proof, its a by product. If your cool the "popular" people won't look down on you even if you choose to go on your own path and once they don't see themselves as higher value that's when talking to their chicks becomes standard All i said is that social proof is very important in HS. Which it is. I'm not talking about how you get it. I just said social proof is very important. Girls DO like guys because of the social proof they have. Thats a fact. Yes, alot of times the guys who have social proof have everything else together as far as being attractive goes. BUT GIRLS ARE EXTREMELY ATTRACTED TO SOCIAL PROOF IN HIGHSCHOOL. Saying they are not, is like saying women to care about their reputation or social standing in school. Its the opposite, women are pretty much more concerned with their social status than anything else in highschool. They are judged on who they hookup with/date, so they make sure that whoever they hook up with/ date is high up on the social ladder. That, is what makes social proof so important. adding to your point, i think that when women see that you have alot of social proof, they start to view you as a leader of men which is a huge DHV.
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Post by taxman on May 5, 2011 18:12:57 GMT -5
^ mental bulshitting haha
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Post by Contempt on May 5, 2011 18:46:56 GMT -5
^ mental bulshitting haha How so? its very true. Women like leaders and men in control.
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Post by taxman on May 5, 2011 19:22:08 GMT -5
Haha yes I'm not fighting it, he said that when women see that you have lots of social proof they start to see you as a leader of men which is a huge dhv .. It may have some truth to it but his bulshitting his mind even more to believe that he NEEDS this social proof to pull. He's just rationalizing, his just reinforcing that thought, its still a self limiting belief
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Post by perceverance on May 5, 2011 19:27:19 GMT -5
Haha yes I'm not fighting it, he said that when women see that you have lots of social proof they start to see you as a leader of men which is a huge dhv .. It may have some truth to it but his bulshitting his mind even more to believe that he NEEDS this social proof to pull. He's just rationalizing, his just reinforcing that thought, its still a self limiting belief have you been watching tyler durden the pua guru dude? you sound alot like him
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Post by spe3d on May 5, 2011 19:38:41 GMT -5
Women are social proof whores
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Post by perceverance on May 5, 2011 20:09:05 GMT -5
Women are social proof whores exactly
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Post by Adam on May 5, 2011 20:46:50 GMT -5
i hang out with some losers who constantly amog and cockblock each other(they supply no social proof whatsoever) so then get better friendsbecause you view them as higher authority and maybe they just don't like you that much positivity doesn't exactly make people want to hang with you I know lots of cool positve guys but some just don't get it, also nice guys finish last They do, and because you've accepted it, they are .. Stop whining. Mental masturbation. This is the first time iv seen someone say that social proof is holding them back, social proof is an attraction switch I dunno how many they are but social proof isn't a game breaker like your saying self limiting thought. You know you can have her so why are you whining, your a man go get what you want how do you get people to like you? stop looking for a magic pill your fighting the process, some people will love you and others will not. You have to be cool with your self to attract people with similar interests you can't be "fake" trying to force positivity and trying to get people to like you. The party is where you are at not them. You could get social proof by dressing like a straight up G or being a cool person that people gravitate towards and don't mind talking too .. there are lots of chodey popular groups at my school and they hang out with a few hot chicks and quite frankly I'd never wanna be a part of that. There's no point chasing popularity and the spotlight with chicks, I'm sure some guys will agree with me - there are so many undiscovered gems of hot women out there that aren't popular. These chicks are popular coz chodes said so, social robots said they are popular not me. In my eyes they aren't shit. And guess what everyone has to sleep, and when these "popular dudes" sleep go approach their chicks .. On a positive note though iv also noticed something under ground haha, if you wanna be friends with someone and hang out with em regularly, prob the easiest thing to do is sleep over at their house after an event or something and just hang with them, they become so much more comfortable with you and you just start getting something rolling .. Same as if a chick is like playing hard to get and shit and when you kiss them after a while she starts to like you a lot and everything starts to move smoothly, but basically keep it real bro your chasing shadows. THANK YOU everybody needed to hear this I learnt this through experience in middle school. Chasing popularity is RETARDED (im not saying be anti social) Also yeah savant sounds like TD but savant is right social proof is your 'excuse'. David Deangelos used to be 'if i could just instantly get a girls number i would have her on my dick' but we all know number closes arn't shit.
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Post by Contempt on May 5, 2011 21:27:58 GMT -5
He stated in his thing he can get women from other schools fine. He has no issue getting women dude...
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Post by Adam on May 5, 2011 21:37:51 GMT -5
Then he should have no problem getting popular girls. Is a girl gonna be like "this guy is fun, confident, and has shown me a great time but he has no social proof so its gonna be a no" no she won't do that unless she is a shallow bitch. he can probably get girls from other schools cause he lets himself. I'm sure he could get popular girls if he would just let go of this whole social proof thing and allow himself to. Remember you are not what you own or wgo you know you are you and girls will like you if you let them
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Post by taxman on May 5, 2011 23:02:50 GMT -5
^ yeah. What is social proof when you can approach like a king, escalate like a demon or whatever you've got handled well ?? Not much .. Yes chicks love it but they appreciate good game so much more. He could wreak of social proof by just having an abundance mindset. He doesn't have to prove his value for shit .. And how the heck can I sound like TD I don't like him that much and his products .. Just not my type although he does have some good concepts. Never seen a vid of him or david, I don't even know what david looks like and never read blueprint before or that fightclub thingy
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Post by spe3d on May 6, 2011 15:51:43 GMT -5
Then he should have no problem getting popular girls. Is a girl gonna be like "this guy is fun, confident, and has shown me a great time but he has no social proof so its gonna be a no" no she won't do that unless she is a shallow bitch. Well, whether you believe it or not, this is true in a lot of cases. It has happened to me. A girl didn't date me ONLY because I wasn't in a certain "clique" or group of friends. There are girls this shallow. Social proof whores. Its all about dropping names to them.
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Post by Contempt on May 6, 2011 16:05:31 GMT -5
I didn't say only social proof. But Social proof is important, whether you guys think so or not. If you have read CYC (if you haven't you better, it basically explains the social dynamics going on in highschool and college perfectly) you should understand this.
Yeah, perserverance should be able to get women without it, but don't make it out to be such a minute deal. Its pretty big in highschool. Its not "almost nothing" compared to good body language etc.
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